The nation continues to be bewildered

Great article today in the Washington Post about sCam Newton. (read it here)

The nation continues to be bewildered about the unbridled arrogance on display in Lee County, with the NZAA sitting on its thumbs…for now.

Remember when much the same was said about Reggie Bush and the obvious cheating that was going on in broad daylight?

Seems as I waft this story it has the same smell; it took four years for that story to play out, and it will be twice that long before USC is relevant again.

Many agree, the same recipe is in play now. Here’s hoping it leaves the same foul taste in Abarn’s mouth as it has USC’s.

(Side note: A little birdie told me this week the FBI asked for tapes from a former Auburn assistant in the mid 90’s, and that they are tracking corruption dating back way before sCam. The “alleged” tapes contain conversations of how “business is done” in Auburn recruiting. If you believe any of this is over, you’re more inebriated than Pat Dye on a Saturday night.)

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  1. 5
    crimson hammah

    LMAO – TOLD U THE FBI NCAA HAD THE GOODS ON AU 5 MONTHS AGO NOW THIS IS NOWE JUST PILING ON GOING FOR JAILTERMS DE-ACCREDITASTION SEC EXPULSION DEATH PENALTY

  2. 7
    crimson hammah

    JULIO JONES WANTS TO STAY FOR SR YR AND GRADUATE AND HIS MOM…SABAN WILL TRY AND CONVINCE HIM TO GO TO NFL…SO THAT WILL MBE THE BATTLE

  3. 12
    BPI

    ITK !!!!!!!! Good to hear from you son. I was begining to worry about you. I didn’t know if you had jumped off a bridge, or stuck a 357 magnum in your mouth…..Anyhow, good to see you are still kickin’.

    Sally’s article didn’t shed any light on anything…It’s just ( like you ) another hack writers spin and opinion on what they think is fact.

    Let me ask you this ….By the same bylaws you are screamng about, shouldn’t Julio, Ingram, Dareas, and several other Bama players be dismissed and ruled “ineligible”? Becasue no matter how small the benifit, they took the benifit , and therefore broke the rule ? Also, if they were “ineligable” when they played last year, your BCS title must also be vacated….

    And not only that, these fine young men actually recieved a benefit, beyond the shadow of a doubt….So what gives ? Cam recieved nothing…His father recieved nothing….His father solicited, but did not recieve, and Cam is not going to the school that was solicited….BUT BAMAS PLAYERS DID REVIEVE COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT……

    It matters not….We are in the clear…We whipped that ass… We are going to the SEC championship with a shot for the national championship….

    It’s all good baby !!!!!!!!

    I knew you could do it ITK…Just keep picking yourself up off the floor everyday and take one step at a time…Before you know it you’ll be watching your 4th place in the West CRIMSON TIDE playing in the Miekike Car Care Bowl in Shreveport La. !!!!!!!

  4. 13
    mandy

    Im stil waiting on proof. I want proof. Theres is no proof. You bammer trash will die waiting on proof. Do you fools think the NCAA and SEC is gonna let us win the Champ game tom and then the heisman and then the NC game and then take that shit away. Both of those idiots would look like pure dam fools after that ruling couple of days ago. What a bunch of idiots.

  5. 14
    mandy

    They have been investigating this shit for months. They cant find any proof money exchanged hands or that Auburn did anything wrong or Cam did anything wrong since hes been at Auburn. All you bammer trash will be wasting your life away hr after hr on the internet waiting on shit to break and it never will. lol

  6. 15
    crimson hammah

    TESTIMONY OF ANY KIND TRUMPS NO COMMENT….TOO MUCH MONEY IS PROOF …GOING TO AU IS BUSINESS IS PROOF …MONEY TRAIL TO BROTHER IN DETROIT IS PROOF ….MISS STAT

  7. 17
    crimson hammah

    U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – THE AVG TIME FOR AN NCAA INVESTIGATION FROM ALLEGATIONS TO THE TEAM GETTING THE CASE AGAINST THEM IS 11 MONTS THIS CASE IS 5 MONTHS OLD AT MOST….THIS IS A HUGE CASE – REGGIE BUSH TOO K 4 YRS

  8. 19
    crimson hammah

    SO IF AU IS NAILED – I GET TO PIMP U OUT AND IF AU IS NOT NAILED U CAN PIMP MY WIFE OUT….THE FBI HAS TRACKED THE MONEY TO A BROTHER IN DETROIT AND ALSO A CONSTRUCTION SCHEME….WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING COMPARED TO WHAT FBI KNOWS

    CAM WAS DECLARED INELIGIBLE ON TUESDAY WAS THAT LEAKED TO THE MEDIA- NO.

  9. 21
    crimson hammah

    U DUMB SLUT – OF COURSE IT WAS WELL PLANNED …AU IS PROFESSIONAL PAYORS FOR PLAY ORGANIZATION…

    THE FBI IS GETTING TAPES ON THE AU RECRUITING METHODS FROM THE 90S THE FBI IS LOOKING TO GET JAIL TIME…DE-ACCREDITATION…ASSETT SEIZURES …EXPULSION SEC AND DEATH PENALTY

  10. 22
    crimson hammah

    U DUMB SLUT – COPS HAD SCOTT PETERSON GUILTY ON DAY 1 YET DID NOT ARREST HIM TO 8 MONTHS LATER AND ONLY THEN WHEN HE WAS SKATING TO MEXICO….REGGIE BUSH AND SOCAL WAS NOT NAILED FOR 4 YRS AND BUSH WAS ALLOWED TO PLAY N NC GAME AND WIN HEISMAN

  11. 24
    crimson hammah

    AND THEY PROBABLY DO NOT WANT TCU IN THE GAME AND IF AU IS OUT SEC WOULD PROBABLY ONLY GET 1 BCS BOWL TEAM

    ALSO THE NCAA IS BEING EXTRA CAREFUL WITH ALL THE LAWSUITS AGAINST THEM IN AL MEANS CASE — YES THEY WON ON APPEALS BUT COST THEM MEGA MILLIONS IN LAWYER FEES

  12. 26
    crimson hammah

    U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – U SAID CAMDAD WAS INNOCENT- U SAID I WAS GOING TO GET SUED FOR SLANDER FOR SAYING CAMDAD WAS AN EXORTIONIST…NOW THE NCAA SEC SAYS CAMDAD IS SCUM ….U WERE WRONG THEN U WILL BE PROVED WRONG WITHIN 2 YRS

  13. 28
    crimson hammah

    OMG U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT I DID NOT SAY BAMA WAS GOING TO A BCS BOWL GAME – I SAID IF AU IS ELIMINATED THE SEC ONLY HAS ONE TEAM GOING TO THE BCS MOST LIKELY – SOUTH CAROLINA OR ARK DEFINITELY NOT BAMA AND PROBABLY NOT ARK OR LSU

  14. 29
    crimson hammah

    HOW THE HELL U GOT THAT I SAID BAMA WOULD GET IN THE BCS IF AU VACATED NOW… WHEN I SAID SEC WOULD MOST LIKELY GET ONLY 1 TEAM IN BCS IF AU IS VACATED…U R ONE STUPID AZZ AND SHOULD PUT A BULLET IN UR HEAD ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE

  15. 32
    crimson hammah

    THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN A FOOTBALL…THE MANDY’S OF THE WORLD COMPLETE DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH, SANITY, INTELLIGENCE , COMMON SENSE MENTALITY GOT OBAMA ELECTED AND HAS DOOMED THIS COUNTRY FOREVER

  16. 33
    crimson hammah

    LIKE I SAID BEFORE I WILL SAY IT AGAIN ..EVERY DEROGATORY STATEMENT IS AGAINST THE BOOGS OF THE AU FANBASE NOT THE NORMAL WING OF THE AU FANBASE

  17. 34
    dave

    Waaahaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

    Still licking your wounds from a week ago. Can’t you dumbos read. Go to the NCAA website and you will see that the Bush case and this one is not the same. Only a dumba*( bammer fan like Shane can’t see it. He is so Aubssessed with all things Auburn, he can’t sleep at night. Ole 5-19 Chizik has upset his apple cart. Priceless. Bwaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

  18. 35
    bamatruth

    crimson hammah please learn a new phrase you stupid ignorant slut…..lmao im a bama fan and damn son ! by the way 5th generation dip shit satute of limitations only runs out when the statute is set in said case.

  19. 36
    crimson hammah

    DAVE U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – WE HAVE BEEN RANTING ABOUT AU SKANK FOR 2 YRS WHEN AU WAS KNOWN TO BE BACK IN PAYOLA II BUSINESS

    CHIZ HAS NOT UPSET APPLE CART…MULLEN IF NOT FOR 200K WOULD HAVE HAD SHOT TO UPSET THE CART…AU WAS NOT IN CAM’S TOP TEN

  20. 38
    dave

    bammer gets the bowl that the Tigers did last year. We get the games they did last year. Heck, you all might have to go to Shreveport. On good thing though, you can take your chickens because cock fighting is legal in Louisiana. The only BCS bammers get is Bring Chickens Sir.

  21. 39
    dave

    Crimson HAMMAH, Why not hammer? Are you tongue tied in your typing? Bwaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    28-27 still suhweeeeeettttt!

  22. 44
    crimson hammah

    WE WILL SEE HOW VALID INTERNET RUMOURS ARE
    DEE HART IS SUPPOSEDLY TO COMMITT TO BAMA AFTER FLA HS PLAYOFF GAME AND HE ATTENDS SAME SCHOOL AS CLINTON-DIX WHICH WOULD SOLIDIFY HIM AS WELL

  23. 45
    crimson hammah

    AND WITH CROWELL DELAYING TO NSD LOOKS LIKE BAMA LOCK RTR AND AU IS NOT EVEN TOP 2O IN CROOTIN LMAO – I GUESS THE BOOSTER MONEY IS RUNNING DRY OR HARD TO CHEAT WHILE BEING WIRETAPPED

  24. 50
    RollTide

    SEC West Revised

    Arkansas…..11-1…..7-1
    LSU……….11-1…..7-1
    Alabama……10-2…..6-2
    Miss State….9-3…..5-3
    Mississippi…5-7…..2-6
    Awbarn……..0-12….0-8

    …and Arkansas should be the SEC West representative in the Championship game.

  25. 51
    bamabino

    The proof lies with the FBI. Lawyers for corrupt Bantard booster, Uncle Milty, yesterday in Federal Court in Montgomery, filed for a “delay of proceedings.” He was indicted in October on conspiracy, 6 counts of bribery and 11 counts of wire and mail fraud.His trial is to begin in April. Their contention is that 6 months is not enough time to prepare for the 3,000+ taped phone calls, 1,000+ hours of tape and over 200,000 pages of documents the FBI has on them, In due time Barntards, in due time.

  26. 52
    crimson hammah

    LMAO JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO THE AU SKANK WERE CLAIMING THE 04 TITLE BECUASE OF THE USC SKANK IRONY AT IT’S BEST

  27. 53
    crimson hammah

    OMG RIGHT BAMBINO – THIS WHOLE STORY HAS BEEN RELEASED ON FBI TIMELINES OF GRAND JURY’S ENDING ETC…
    THE REAL MEDIA HAMMER WILL COME OUT AFTER LOWDER AND OTHER WEASELS GET INDICTED ANY DAY NOW

  28. 54
    crimson hammah

    LMAO – DONNAN AU IS SR LADEN TEAM AND HATS OFF TO TUBBY’S CROOTS MINUS THE ONE BOUGHT OUT FROM UNDER MS COWBELLS

  29. 55
    RollTide

    There would be a consolation for the Barners. They would have the best defense in the country…giving up only 12 points in 12 games.

    Awbarn 2010
    (0-12)
    ———–

    Arkansas State……0-1
    MS State…………0-1
    Clemson………….0-1
    South Carolina……0-1
    LA Monroe………..0-1
    Kentucky…………0-1
    Arkansas…………0-1
    LSU……………..0-1
    Mississippi………0-1
    UT Chattanooga……0-1
    Georgia………….0-1
    Alabama………….0-1

  30. 56
    Almightytmc1

    This is sad. In a practical world.
    Everyone knows that Cam knew.
    Everyone knows that Auburn knew. But based on the current information the NCAA had to give Cam a pass. For the time being.
    Excuse the f*ck out of me for saying this.
    But any rational and sane person knows that Cam is getting paid to play. The fact that the aubboriginal fambly is cheesing about getting by with cheating is disgraceful.
    Yuck it up aubbos. When the sh*t hits the fan you wont have a bit of sympathy from anyone anywhere.
    And you will forever be the fanbase that cries “FOUL” at others while YOU are the ones doing the cheating.

    Must be sad to know that the only way you can get a *National Championship is by paying players and then you still suck so bad you can only manage to do it every 50+ years.
    BTW, for all of those uneducated moron Aubs who think the Iron bowl is stinging us.
    Not really.
    As far as I know we have a Heisman trophy, and SEC trophy and a National Championship trophy in our trophy case.
    I think you might need to get were we have already been before you start trying to talk down to a program that is far superior to yours.
    And I still dont think you are going to go all the way with it.
    Wouldnt it suck, to get the death penalty and still not get the brass ring?
    That would be the darkest day in the history of Auburn indeed.
    Me, Cap, ITK Hammah, Alex, the state of Alabama, the SEC, the NCAA, and the nation will be pointing and laughing at the ignorant aubbos. Like we usually do.

  31. 57
    bamabino

    How much is left in the player’s slush fund.? I know too much. Maybe Grandpa Lowder will make me an offer I can’t refuse.

  32. 63
    Almightytmc1

    BTW who is paying the Ultra smooth bullsh*t salesman attorney that the Newton’s have. Last I heard attorneys cost money and, Last I heard the Newtons didnt have any.
    So who is footing the bill?

  33. 65
    FinebaumJunkie

    Oh, you people can carry on with this fetish you have on this case. It’s absolutely funny as hell to see you carrying on about it.

  34. 66
    FinebaumJunkie

    I will be back here later. Im going to put my Dr.Peppers on some ice and marinate my ribeyes for tommorow as I enjoy them whilst watching Auburn and a very eligible Cam lift the SEC championship in the air.

  35. 67
    crimson hammah

    Hit the nail on the head – Hammah has been laughing at AU ever since 9 yr old 71 iron bowl thought it would be epic match up….

    fool me once shame on u – fool me twice shame on me….i’ve been laughing ever since ..how has that worked out for me

  36. 69
    BeSerious

    Your “little birdie” is as delusional as you are. Just like your bogus conspiracy theories about McGregor and debit cards (laughable, if you have any sense at all), your imaginary friend is completely wrong about this. The FBI is NOT –repeat NOT — investigating Auburn. The FBI is interested in possible violations of federal law by Kenny Rogers and U. of Florida. Auburn is not in trouble with either the NCAA or the FBI. Try to wrap your tiny mind around that.

    I know that you bammers have been pinning your hopes on the NCAA doing what your football team could not — beat Auburn. And just for fun, you were hoping to see Auburn’s entire athletic department led away in handcuffs. Well, listen up: your fondest dreams are NOT going to come true. And you will have to find a way to pick up the pieces of your shattered little life and move on.

    Get a clue, get a life, and grow a pair. And maybe — just maybe — you’ll finally be able to move out of your mother’s basement.

  37. 70
    Almightytmc1

    BeSerious,
    You cant possibly be serious.
    To begin with…
    Who is paying Cam’s attorney right now. Is this another case of improper benefits?
    Don’t tell me that the Newton’s are paying him because up until about 14 months ago the newton’s were desperately broke as f*ck.

    2. You know d*mn good and well that Cam and Auburn knew about the money.
    A couple of weeks ago the Newton attorney was saying that Cecil didn’t ask for money. Well now, he is recanting the story. What else did he tried to cover up?

    3. Here is a clue.
    You don’t get a player that is being shopped for 6 figures for free. You pride yourself on being a “practical” man right?

    4. The NCAA said they didn’t have the evidence to deny Cam’s eligibility. No where did they say Cam is innocent. Nowhere did they say that they had stopped investigating. (As a matter of fact they are on record saying “eligibility” and “investigation” are two entirely different things.

    5. So what? So what if Auburn wins everything and the freaking super bowl too?
    Nothing. You are still not going to have any respect. And it will always be viewed as tainted. Just like the big NC of 1957.
    6. As for the National picture?
    I would rather be irrelevant than despised. Which is where auburn is right now. Go to any blog around that isnt an Auburn blog. Go to TigerDroppings, Go to Blutarsky’s blog…. hell go to ANY SEC blog and you will find out the Auburn warrior poets and their esteemed leader Cam Newton are downright hated.
    7. Which brings me to my final point. Auburn has past disliked and went straight to being loathed. BeSerious, You guys are picking up enemies at an alarming rate.
    Don’t be surprised when a judgement day comes and everyone has their knives sharpened for you.

    A funny thought just occured to me…. What if the Head Ball Coach has one more good game in him?

    Pressures on you guys now. And even if you win in Glendale, it is not going to go away.

    Sucks to be you.

  38. 71
    crimson hammah

    U R ONE FREAKING MORON IF U DON’T THINK THE FBI INTERVIEWED JOHN BOND BECAUSE FBI SAID CHILDREN WERE BEING SHOPPED AROUND FOR 1000S OF DOLLARS…CAM INELIGIBLE FOR A DAY…POLITICIANS IN BAMA IN JAIL FOR CONSPIRING WITH SAME PEOPLE….COLONIAL BANK IS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED FOR BANK FAILURE AND COSTING TAXPAYERS 7 BILLION BUCKS…TOO STUPID NO WONDER AU HAS NEVER WON A NC

  39. 75
    crimson hammah

    U PEOPLE ARE IN ERROR ON FACTS AND TIMELINE……

    ACTUAL

    CAM ALL SET TO GO TO MISS STATE WHEN CAM DAD GETS CALL FROM AU REP WITH BIG FINACIAL OFFER…180K TO 200K MAYBE MORE

    THEN CAMDAD GOES TO STARKVILLE TO GIVE MS A CHANCE TO MATCH OR COME CLOSE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE CAM WANTED TO GO BASED ON RELATIONSHIP WITH MULLEN …

    AT THE STARKVILLE HOTEL CAMDAD BROUGHT UP MONEY AND AS ROGERS AND MS ASST – MS SAID WE DON T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MONEY AND THEN CAMDAD KICKED OUT OF OFFICE…

    THEN CAMDAD WENT TO KNOXVILLE – LANE KICKS HIM OUT ,,,

    THEN SIGNS WITH AU

    PER MISSISSIPPI STATE ASST COACH/RECRUITER
    IN JULY 2010

  40. 76
    DAMAGE INC.

    You barner’s, and I’m talking to you too Butt Plug, are going to get smoked faster than a cock on a porno. You guys are yukking up a season KNOWING the shit’s hitting the fan in the future. What a fucking joke. You guy’s have your head’s up your as$ SO FAR — you can’t see it coming! I mean … it baffles me!?!

    I can’t WAIT until the appeals (delay of trials from the scumbag lawyers) are up. Because the day(s) it goes down — it will be the CLOSEST thing to the death penalty, it will even make SMU look like a cake walk.

    You may beat South Carolina (I really doubt it) and go on to the NC — maybe win it — maybe hang the banner up for your recruits who couldn’t make it to another school for a better future — then take the banner down and have it stamped on T-Shirts at Toomer’s Cunter.

    Asterisk U.

    frAUd.

    *.

    Your relevance = nothing in the end.

  41. 77
    DAMAGE INC.

    Oh yeah ITK — we all know Pat Cry is the IRON LIVER! I hope my health can live up to his standards! Cuz when I’m 90’ish — I can still pound doubled up jack & coke’s with the best of ’em. Keep it down home cuz. It’s the Aubarn way. Yella way … jail way. McGregor way … slush funds in other states with 501C3 status’ ways. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  42. 79
    28-27

    No money changed hands and the NCAA is free to interpret their own rules anyway they want to because…hell they made the rules.

  43. 80
    auburntigerfan

    Are auburn fans that blase?
    Another article ….Washington Post.
    Are the aubs to ignorant to understand that the press will not let this go away?
    Too many people are asking questions.
    Sure they might have sweethearted a little deal with the NCAA with Cam’s supposed secret suspension. But still. Too many people are onto this one. Too many press outlets are asking questions and not likeing the answers they are getting.
    The whole “Cam Newton” precedent is not passing muster. No one believes he and his family are innocent and the fact that Auburn was denying everything right up until Cam’s secret suspension. Only adds gasoline to the fire.

  44. 82
    BeSerious

    tmc: You are still desperate and delusional. Both Stoops and Kiffin have stated for the record that no one approached them about payment while they were recruiting Cam. The FBI is after Kenny Rogers, and Cecil Newton is cooperating with their investigation. He is the one who made the solicitation to MSU, not Cecil. Rogers is already in trouble with the NFLPA, and his business was in trouble and he needed cash at the time this supposedly went down over the weekend of the Egg Bowl in November, 2009. Don’t you think that if Cam was REALLY being “shopped” that EVERY school would have been asked for cash? Obviously, it was a Kenny Rogers-led MSU deal. He was trying to shake down his own alma mater and convinced Cecil to make that mistake with him. Shame on Cecil for even contemplating it.

    As for the Newtons having a lawyer, they also have a son who has played in the NFL until recently, and who has been helping his parents out. Even middle-class people have lawyers, and it’s not like the guy they hired is some high-powered hotshot that everyone has heard of. Far from it.

    As much as you bammers are hoping and praying that Auburn is going to go down in flames, that’s just not happening. That whole “money is too much story” is an internet legend that phone records could not back up (sorry, Joe Schad).

    The outcome this week is the one that those of us close to Auburn have KNOWN was coming all along, because Auburn had done its’ due diligence on this situation throughout 2010. The information that was “new” to you and the rest of the public was not “new” to anyone at Auburn.

    And once and for all, the Reggie Bush comparison doesn’t hold water, no matter how much y’all want it to. The Bush family was living in “free” luxury housing, money and benefits ACTUALLY changed hands, and USC’s coaching staff KNEW that it had changed hands. The only thing we have here is some kind of solicitation of benefits that ONLY occurred over a weekend in Starkville, and nowhere else. That’s why the NCAA cleared Cam, and why there is NO comparison to Reggies Bush, except in the minds of bammers whose tinfoil hats are on too tight.

    So unlike UAT, Auburn is not “staring down the barrel of a gun,” and won’t be spending the next decade-plus on probation. Sorry to disappoint you, boys. Actually…no I’m not.

    WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!

  45. 84
    northernbamaoutpost

    This is gonna be awful for Auburn when it’s all over. The NCAA will move faster on this than Reggie Bush, only because now the ruling has galvanized the rest of the country.

    The central issue isn’t Cam, or his dad, or even that Auburn paid the price, and now has to wait until the hammer falls on the program.

    The central issue is that what Auburn desires more than anything else is relevance. They just want to be a factor in the conversation, like Ohio State, Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and the rest of the established programs.

    Those programs want championships. Nothiing else is good enough. That’s different at Auburn. Just being considered a program that matters on a national scale is sufficient, and the awful reality is that once this is all out and settled, relevance will be at least a decade away.

    That’s what happens when the NCAA uses the term “lack of institutional control.” And when you failed to sit the kid and went for the brass ring before the investigation could time out… that’s what you invited.

    Enjoy being part of the conversation, for now.

  46. 85
    mandy

    Have you all seen how much extra money Chiz is fixing to get over and above his salary. He hit a gold mind coming to Auburn. Leaving that old Iowa St. worked out perfect for him. He will get a hellacious raise on top of that. Good for him. We fixing to kick some ass come 3pm. Go Tigers

  47. 86
    crimson hammah

    U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – NEWTON GOT UPWARDS OF OVER $300K IN CASH AND BUSINESS CONTRACT AND FALSE BUSINESS PROFITS-THE MISS ST ASST KNOWS HOW AU FUNNELED THE MONEY TO CAMDAD

  48. 87
    crimson hammah

    MANDY – U LYING PIECE OF TRASH U SAID ROGERS WAS NOT ACTING ON NEWTON’S BEHALF …NEWTON SAID ROGER’S WAS ACTING ON HIS OWN …U SAID IT WAS SLANDEROUS TO SAY NEWTON WAS EXTORTING MISS ST….HOW DID THOSE LIES TURN OUT-RIGHT U GOT EXPOSED

  49. 88
    crimson hammah

    CHIZ WAS PAID TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT AND THE ULTIMATE PUPPET – NICE JOB SO FAR IF SMART HE BETTER GET HIM SOME HUSH MONEY

  50. 91
    crimson hammah

    U DUM IGNORANT POS – THE MISS ST ASST SAID IN A FACE TO FACE MEETING NEWTON EXTORTED HIM ROGERS BACKS HIM UP …THE NCAA SAID THEY BELIEVE MS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED PER MULLEN

  51. 93
    JDcahill

    Sems as if C Newton pulled up in a 1 year old truck that cost around $60,000. Meager life style my ass. Church repairs up around $50,000. The barn fixn to be on fire. Hows the money going on the SEC game Hammah. You still going to make Mandy your sex slave

  52. 94
    crimson hammah

    NO – HAVE NOT CHECKED MONEY WILL DO IT LAST MINUTE….CAN’T MAKE MANDY SEX SLAVE BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO BET ME I WILL TAKE IT…IF I WIN I WILL PIMP MANDY OUT FOR THE MONEY ONLY

  53. 100
    JDcahill

    Attacked again at walmart by crazed AU fan. While talking to a gentleman about football, I commented on AU and a women I wasn’t even talking came up and got in my face. This is the 4 time this week, hell I wasn’t even talking to her, WTF. I guess deep down they know it’s coming. Why don’t they blame the ones who got them in this mess ( Lowder and Dye ). Well as usuall I had to make her look like a complete idiot. Most AU fans don’t really know the facts. They just stupidly defend these guys like there defending their kid or something. Hell the last time they were caught they were handed down some of the heavyest sanctions in football history. It’s just Dye and lowder doing the same things that they were doing before but theirs alot more to this story, Hell if your kids going to AU you should really be freaking out rite about now. But hey don’t blame us blame the turds that got you in this mess. I keep hearing them blame Bama. I guess they’ve got to have someone to blame,

  54. 102
    JDcahill

    I found this Post of all Places. Buffalo Bills site.
    by HANK CRISP » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:06 am

    The links do not work because they weren’t hyperlinked when I copied post.
    Some of ya’ll have already seen some of this. I am sure some haven’t. I don’t know the validity of any of these. I know from living in Alabama and witnessing most of it is true. I am Tide Pride charter member. Dissect and bring out the truth. Very long post.

    Here is where I copied post. You can link to it or just read it.

    http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/123321-cam-and-auburn/

    Posted 17 November 2010 – 04:51 PM
    Posted a thread about Cam the other day to mixed reviews…. figured I would share some of what is going around down in SEC country as far as the back story to this… could get ugly. Here is a copy and pasted email I received. I cant vouch for all the facts, but they do have links throughout for further info. LOOONG but interesting read about pay for play, and auburn. I will admit, being an upstate new yorker until a few years ago, I am not up to speed on my SEC history, but people around here seem to be pretty adamant about this passing the initial smell test. It is definitely an endeavor to read, be warned, its long. I beg of you all, please dont quote it all in replies!

    “AS THE PLAINS BURN”

    …NEW MEANING TO THE CRY ”ALL IN” AT AUBURN UNIVERSITY….

    Part One (I) CAST –

    John Bond – Former MSU QB now living in Madison, Miss. Director of business development for Eutaw Construction. His company specializes in heavy construction, although they branched off in the last few years and built some game-day condos near the Mississippi State stadium. Supposedly had 1st contact with Kenny Rodgers and his alleged representation of Cam Newton

    Greg Bryne – MSU AD which John Bond asserts he immediately told once he learned about the Newton PFP Scheme. Was responsible for providing PFP information to the SEC. Resigned his post Spring, 2010 taking a similar position at Arizona. Was replaced with the National Search find of Scott Stricklin – Named Mississippi State’s associate athletic director for external affairs in May, 2010. Scott, who has spent the previous five seasons at Kentucky as associate AD for media relations overseeing men’s basketball, is a Jackson native and graduated from KSU in 1992

    Mike Slive – Replaced Roy Kramer as Commissioner of the SEC on July 1, 2002. He previously was the first commissioner of Conference USA from 1995 to 2002, and the first commissioner of the Great Midwest Conference upon its founding in 1991. Practiced law in New Hampshire; Served as judge of the Hanover District Court from 1972 to 1977, and was a partner in a Chicago law firm. He was assistant director of athletics at Dartmouth College, assistant executive director of the Pacific-10 Conference, and director of athletics at Cornell University from 1981 to 1983. In 1990, he became senior partner and founder of the Mike Slive-Mike Glazier Sports Group, a legal practice specializing in representing colleges and universities in athletics-related matters.

    Bill Bell – Former MSU Player, president of Bel-Mac Roofing Co. in Santa Rosa Beach, Fla. Was the man Kenny Rogers left a voice message with stating Cecil Newman wanted to speak with him. Also rumored to have taped conversations between Himself and Newton where Newton Shops Son’s Commitment.

    Cecil Newton – Pastor of Holy Zion Center of Deliverance in the Atlanta suburb of Newnan, Georgia, and father of Cam Newton, The Auburn player this epic story surrounds. Also owns RM Trucking, a small local carrier based in Jacksonville, Ga.

    Kenny Rodgers – The so-called “handler” requested by Cecil Newman to make introductions at MSU. Operates Elite Football Preparation, a company that places prospective athletes in football camps throughout Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Illinois. Also has direct links to Ian Greengross, a certified Agent by the NFLPA, acting often as a “Runner” for Greengross.

    Dan Mullen – Head Football Coach MSU. Was offensive Coordinator at Univ. of Florida prior to becoming MSU’s Head Coach. Both Mullen and his wife Megan built Relationship with Cam Newton as a Freshman. Mullen is credited with the development of several notable quarterbacks including Alex Smith (Utah), Josh Harris (Bowling Green), Chris Leak (Florida) and Heisman Trophy-winner Tim Tebow (Florida). Mullen, along with LSU Offensive Coordinator Gary Crowton and University of Oregon Head Coach Chip Kelly, are part of the so-called “New Hampshire mafia” as they all have strong connections to New Hampshire.

    Jody Wright – Asst. coach at MSU in 2009, now on staff at UA in the same capacity – was the one who recruited Cam Newton for Mississippi State. It’s believed that Wright was the (legal) middle-man between the Newton’s and MSU. Was interviewed by the NCAA on November 15th. Upon completion of that Interview, NCAA headed immediately to Auburn.

    Gene Chizik – Named Head Coach of AU on Dec. 13, 2008. Prior to Auburn, Was head coach at Iowa State, compiling a 5-19 record in two seasons. Chizik was also at AU during the 2002-2004 seasons acting as DC under Tuberville.

    Jay Jacobs – Named AU’s AD on Dec. 22, 2004, after working in almost every area of the Dept. for the previous 20 years. Played Football for AU as a Walk-on offensive tackle in 1982 and 1983. After College, Held various positions in AD while working under then Coach and AD Pat Dye. Was Sr. Assoc. AD in charge of Tigers Unlimited from 2001-04, the lead Fundraising arm of the AU AD. Also spearheaded a $90 million capital campaign for Athletics, the largest AU history.

    Pat Dye – Head coach and AD at AU from 1981 until 1992. Dye was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2005. Served as Defensive Coach at UA from 1965 to 1973 under Coach Paul “Bear” Bryant. Ranked 3rd in AU Football wins with a record of 99-39-4. Reign on the Plains ended abruptly after the 1992 season, the result of a NCAA probe relating to illegal loans, payments, and gifts made by boosters and assistant coaches to then player Eric Ramsey. At the time, the most severe penalty handed down by the NCAA Committee.

    Eric Ramsey – The defensive back AU in the early 1990s who used a tape recorder to secretly record conversations between his football coaches and Booster “Corky” Frost regarding an illicit player payment scheme. Ramsey’s allegations also included racist practices at Auburn, including disapproval of inter-racial dating in the community and segregation of black and white players in the resident athletic dorm. After his tapes were revealed, Auburn received strict penalties and probation for the sixth time in the school’s history

    Terry Bowden – a.k.a. “Tater Tot”, and son of the legendary Bobby Bowden. Became AU head coach in 1992. During his first year at Auburn, Bowden led the Tigers to a perfect 11–0 season, becoming the first coach to go undefeated in his debut season at a Division I school. In 1994, Auburn finished 9–1–1, establishing the longest winning streak in school history at 20 games. While still suffering from the sanctions rendered for Dye & Co’s transgressions, in 1998 Bowden’s fate at AU changed as he faced criticism for recruiting woes and off-the-field player discipline issues. Compound these problems with a string of injuries at center and in the backfield and you have to a disastrous start of the 1998 season. After starting with a 1–5 record, Bowden resigned as head coach the night before Auburn played against Louisiana Tech, replaced with Bill Oliver.

    Bill Oliver – He is best known as a DC at both UA under Gene Stallings and at AU under Terry Bowden, the latter where he also served as interim head coach in 1998. Was at the center of Bowden controversy, allegedly working with Longtime Booster and then BoT member Bobby Lowder conspiring to have Bowden Fired.

    Wayne Hall – Longtime asst. and DC under both Dye and Bowden. Was the supposed “Bookkeeper and Bag Man” for payments to touted recruits under Dye, which continued under Bowden. Started Coach’s Construction of Auburn, has been recognized as a premier business leader in the AU community. (see link)

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    Gene Jelks – UA defensive Back and prize recruit which received $2,100 as a “signing bonus” when he committed to Alabama in 1985 and received money from coaches and boosters during his playing career, which ended with the 1989 season. He, along with Antonio Langham and his role in NapkinGate, led to the dismissal of Gene Stallings and Staff, along with most of the Athletic Dept.

    Tommy Tuberville – AU Head Coach from 1999 to 2008. During his tenure Tubs guided AU to the top of the SEC, Winning both the SEC Championship and the Western Division title in 2004. Made 8 straight bowl appearances and 5 New Year’s Day bowls. Was a perfect 13–0 in 2004; In 2005, finished 9–3 with victories over UGA and UA. Had a winning record against UA (7–3) including 6 straight, more than any other Auburn coach. Also broke even with Georgia and LSU (5–5).
    Tony Franklin – Much Maligned OC hired by Tubs to install the Spread Offense. Never really had the proper personnel at skilled positions, and was later fired for lack of performance. Was most noted for his quote in the AJC sometime after his termination – “People would be shocked at the stuff that goes on at Auburn – it would make headlines for the National Enquirer”

    Trooper Taylor – Current assistant head coach, wide receivers coach, and Recruiting Coordinator at AU. Instrumental in Auburn signing a consensus top-five recruiting class in 2010. Named by Rivals.com to its list of the top 25 recruiters for the 3rd time, having previously earned the recognition in 2005 and 2007. Served in a similar capacity at OK. State, landing prize 5* players Dez Bryant and Kendall Hunter. Has held similar positions at both UT and Tulane. Although never formally sanctioned, rumors and innuendo have always followed Taylor with respect to PFP controversies and inappropriate gifts to prospective players, especially while at Tulane.
    Rich McGlynn – Current AU AD Compliance Officer. Prior to AU, was employed by the NCAA from 2001 to 2006, most recently serving as Associate Director of Membership Services. Prior to that, was an Assistant Director of Membership Services and a Student-Athletes Reinstatement Representative within the Enforcement Services arm of the NCAA. Was Commissioner of the Central Atlantic Collegiate Conference from 2000-01 and was a legal specialist for the New Jersey General Assembly Majority Office (2000-01). Served as a legal specialist to the Office of Counsel to the Governor to the State of New Jersey (1999-00).

    W&L – According to those in the know, in real life he is a fairly influential religious figure in Al. working with athletes at the high school and collegiate level. In CyberSpace, he’s a long-Time member of Bama OnLine, who evidently is very well placed within the Bama Athletic Machine. Rarely does he post, but when he does most take it to the bank. Doesn’t always post the actual facts as “Gospel”, but rather his opinion based on unrevealed concrete facts. Evidently was way ahead of the Jones/Ingram Fishing Saga, the Saban Hiring, and most recently the Dareus Suspension. Also the Seed for The Egg’s nearly 1200 post thread regarding W&L’s e-cred.

    Paul Davis – Editor for the Opelika-Auburn News and the Tuskegee News Press. Often critical of Lowder and his mingling, broke the piece on October 21st regarding the ties between Geddie, Auburn, and the Vote buying indictments. Also authored the interview with Bowden in 2001 on his ranch regarding Lowder, Dye, and the BoT.

    Robert Geddie – Lobbyist for Wise–Geddie. According to the Department of Justice, (Geddie) was nailed for allegedly working with the state’s major gambling interests to influence and/or buying votes favoring proposed gambling houses. The indictment was based primarily on intercepts (wire taps) of cell phone and land line conversations with those now rumored in the alleged pay-for-play scheme

    LOWDER & CO.

    Bobby Lowder – AU BoT member since 1988, and Chairman of AU Finance Committee. Also the largest booster with AU Athletics. Current Trustee position expires Late 2011. Was chairman and CEO of Colonial BancGroup, a $25Billion Nat’l. Bank headquartered in Montgomery Al. until it’s failure in Mid-Late August, 2009. Lowder is often thought of as the Wizard behind the Curtain, manipulating the Ala. Political Machine as well as the AU BoT and AD as he feels. Up until Colonial’s failure and takeover and liquidation by the Feds, Lowder was labeled as the most powerful man in Alabama. Also the most disliked individual within AU, outside of his inner circle.

    Milton McGregor – Large AU Athletics Booster, and Owner of Victoryland, an area located in Shorter, Alabama that consists of a greyhound racing track, casino, and a 5-star hotel. It was dubbed as a racino. Ala. Governor, Atty General, and approx 100 Ala State Troopers tried to seize bingo machines on Jan. 29th, but were blocked by a temporary restraining order blocking State Access. Since August 12, 2010, Victoryland has closed its casino, restaurant and hotel operations. McGregor was arrested on October 4th, along with several of his Legislative Cronies as part of a Vote Buying Scam. This was the same casino operator that led to the lawsuits against former Birmingham Mayor Larry Langford.

    Larry Langford – Former Birmingham Al. mayor in jail for taking $235,000 in cash and gifts from associates profiting from Jefferson County bond deals. Was also sued by several individuals claiming he received ill-gotten winnings from rigged Bingo Machines at VictoryLand, in exchange for receiving political favor and to promote approval of business dealings for affiliates of the Macon County Greyhound Park, mainly McGregor.

    Jimmy Rane – Another Long Time AU Booster, Rane is the CEO and founder of Great Southern Wood Preserving, which makes YellaWood, a rot resistant pressure treated lumber used in a multitude of construction and landscaping applications. He is also the founder of the Jimmy Rane Foundation, which promotes Higher Ed through Scholarships for lesser-advantaged students with low incomes or unsuccessful surroundings. Rane’s involvement in AU Boosters goes all the way back to the Bowden Era. In Fact, Bowden referred to him, in his 2001 interview with Paul Davis “…as a wannabe, a jock sniffer, a loose cannon. He wants to be involved in everything. He is High Maintenance.”

    Paul Spina and John C. McWhorter – Spina of Spina Enterprises, Pelham, Al (Real Estate & Investments) and McWhorter of McWhorter & Co., Anniston, Al (General Contractor) are the two BoT members along with Rane that Bowden accused of making direct payments to players during both Dye’s and Bowden’s tenure. Spina still sits on the BoT, while McWhorter’s At-large term expired in 2008.

    ORGANIZATIONS – TERMS – ACRONYMS

    Colonial BancGroup – $25Billion Financial Institution controlled by Lowder headquartered in Montgomery, Al. August of 2009, failed and was seized by the FDIC, and simultaneously sold to BB&T for $1Million. Currently under federal investigation for fraud, embezzlement, misappropriation of funds, and money laundering (to name a few) in conjunction with the financial instability of both Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. As late as 2007, board members included in addition to Lowder, John Miller, AU BoT and lead partner of Miller, Hamilton, Snyder, and Odom – Mobile, Jimmy Rane (BoT), Pat Dye, and Milton McGregor Paul Spina (BoT) was Chairman of Colonial Bank Group, Montgomery, a subsidiary of the Colonial Parent Holding Company.

    Victoryland/Quincey’s 777 -An area located in Shorter, Alabama that consists of a greyhound racing track, casino, and a 5-star hotel. It was dubbed as a racino. Operations closed in late summer 2010, just before McGregor was indicted.

    Bama OnLine (BOL)– Rivals.com site discussing all things Bama. ITAT Conspiracy theorists feel several posters on this site are the machine behind the atrocity known as CamGate.

    Tiger Sports Digest (TSD)– Auburn’s Scout.com Pay Site. November 16th reports Indictments handed down today involving Auburn Boosters caught on tape discussing PFP scheme.

    REC – Red Elephant Club – UA Athletics contribution Vehicle and Booster Club. Not confirmed, but also rumored to have overthrown the Freemasons, the Illuminati, The US Federal Reserve Bank, The 7 Jewish Bankers controlling the world’s economy, as well as keeping the commitment of a 6:30am Friday tee time at Augusta National with Pope Benedict XVI

    SACS-Southern Association of Colleges and Schools – The Commission on Colleges that is the regional body for the accreditation of degree-granting for higher education institutions in the Southern states.

    ITAT – Inside the Auburn Tigers. Scout.com’s website with discussions all things Auburn.

    PFP – Play-For-Play

    BoT – Auburn University’s Board of Trustees

    SECr – TigerDroppings.com’s SEC Rant

    SIAP – Seen in a different Post (or Sorry If Already Posted)

    WWTDD – What Would TigerDroppings.com Do?

    PART TWO (II) – BACKGROUND HISTORY INVOLVING DYE, LOWDER, THE BOT, AND THE COACHES.

    This is a brief compilation of Bobby Lowder’s alleged involvement and manipulation of the Auburn University System as it relates to the Athletic Dept., the Board of trustees, and SACS

    CHAPTER 1 -Terry Bowden (source: Dark side of College Football Interview with Paul Davis at Bowden’s ranch in 2001)

    1) Way back in 1992-93, rumors and allegations surrounding AU’s football program are swirling around Pat Dye, Asst. Coach Wayne Hall (the “Bookkeeper”), and Bobby Lowder claiming lump sum as well as monthly payments to highly touted recruits were being made by the Coaching Staff and BoT members. Supposedly, 50-60 boosters would each contribute $5,000 to facilitate the payments. Hall collected the money from the boosters, as well as making the payments to the players. Hall and Dye also pay an Atlanta Atty $30,000 to forward onto Gene Jelks to keep him squealing about PFP programs at Bama. (This by the way is absolutely hilarious!!)

    2) The same year, Eric Ramsey uses a concealed tape recorder and documents booster “Corky” Frost’s conversations with Dye and other coaches describing AU’s PFP program and how it worked.

    3) Before the shitstorm gets totally out of control with NCAA Investigations, Bobby Lowder ‘ram-rods” Terry Bowden into Dye’s position as coach, with the understanding Bowden keeps Hall (Paymaster and Bookkeeper) on staff, against the wishes of assoc. AD Mike Lude, because Lude knew Hall was the money man.

    4) On August 18, 1993, Auburn was hit with some of the most severe penalties in the history of the NCAA (at that time). These included a two-year bowl ban, a one-year television ban (for the 1993 season), and the loss of 13 scholarships spread out over a four-year period. Dye was also banned from any appearance at an Auburn function until August 1995. The probation period, while enforced at the beginning of the 1993 season, did not actually start until the 1991 probations of the basketball and tennis teams ended. The probation therefore extended until Thanksgiving 1995.

    5) Although Bowden admits to allowing Hall to honor payment agreements reached with existing players, Bowden begins the “termination” of the PFP program involving any new recruits, pissing Lowder off for not playing along, even though sanctions were severely limiting the talent pool in Football. Lowder begins to panic, has his daughter hired as Bowden’s Admin. Asst. to keep tabs, and implements a “coup” of the Athletic Administration. He has Muse replaced with David Housel, someone to act more as a puppet controlled by Lowder. Also orchestrates BoT Members Jimmy Rane, Paul Spina, and John C. McWhorter as the BoT Football Advisory Committee, which devises the demise of Bowden.

    6) According to Bowden, Danny Rane (a walk on and YellaWood’s son) is secretly sending AU practice tapes to Miss. St. to further the failure of Bowden and Staff (also absolutely hilarious if true.) Bill Oliver (Bowden’s Def. Coord.) brings a concealed tape recorder to coaches meeting and prods Bowden into lying about supposed “votes of confidence” assured for Bowden and Staff by Lowder. Mid-Season Tommy Tubs is promised AU’s head coaching job, while still coaching at Ole Miss.

    7) Bowden gets wind of all this, and resigns mid-season before the BoT and Lowder can orchestrate his formal termination. By doing so, Bowden secures a severance package of the Ranch where the interview took place, a lump sum payment of Cash, and deferred installment disbursements, in all valued at over $1.8Million. Also included in the package is a confidentiality agreement sealing ANY discussion of Lowder, BoT, the Athletic Dept. or Recruiting.

    CHAPTER 2 – TOMMY TUBS (source: AJC, Mobile Register, and ESPN Archived Articles via Google)

    1) From 1999 to 2003, TT Wins between 7-9 games per season, placing 1st in the West twice. On more than one occasion, Lowder and TT butt heads during this period, pissing Lowder off.

    2) Lowder, then President William Walker, Then AD Housel, and BoT members Franklin and McWhorter fly to Louisville to meet Bobby Petrino about replacing Tubs, starting the fiasco later known as JetGate.

    3) Tubs gets pissed, threatens to go to the SACS (which is in the midst of its own review of BoT problems caused by Lowder), and the whole thing blows up in Lowder’s face. In an effort to keep Tubs at bay, his contract is renegotiated to include a disclosure provision that Tubs is to be notified before any contact with a potential coach or search is made.

    4) Tubs goes 13-0 yet AU gets snubbed for 2004 BCS.

    5) 2007 Saban shows up at Bama

    6) Lowder and Co. are scared about Bama’s hire and want Tubs out, allegedly because Tubs won’t “actively” participate in PFP schemes which Lowder and Co. feel is necessary to compete with Bama’s new hire. Also, Tubs hire of Franklin as OC was a complete failure. YellaWood (Still BoT Member) contacts Huston Nutt (Sexton Client) about possible interest. Nutt Tells Sexton, who Tells Tubs, who Threatens Litigation for Breach of Search Notification Clause.

    7) AU and Boosters shell out $Millions to Tubs as Settlement.

    CHAPTER 3 – Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) (source: Timeline – AJC Archives, Al.com, via Google)

    1) April 1999. Budget Cuts orchestrated by Lowder as head of BoT Finance Chair eliminate the PhD. program in Economics, pissing off a large portion of the Faculty, including then Pres. William Muse. By Feb, 2001 (led behind the scenes by Lowder) Muse has had enough, gets forced out and takes a similar position with East Carolina.

    2) March, 2001, Muse along with several Faculty and Dept Chairs, initiate a formal complaint to the SACS that BoT has severely infringed upon the authority of the University President, specifically the “Micromanagement” of Lowder in both Academics and the Athletic Dept. They specifically site the Termination/Resignation of TBowden as record.

    3) SACS records 9 votes of no confidence and was in the process of initiating and investigation when AU sues the SACS for lack of due process.

    4) In August, 2002 a Federal Judge appoints an independent examiner to look into allegations, as well as the financial ties between the various BoT members. Richard Bradley issues a report on December 13th, but the Judge, at the insistence of SACS, deems the report inadequate. So Bradley does another investigation, the results of which are curiously sealed by a separate court order, an order which remains intact still today.

    5) SACS places AU on a one year probation, the most severe sanction possible without pulling the accreditation entirely. Although hampered by a Federal Judge’s restrictions, they were still able to substantiate Micromanagement issues. Specifically, the business relationships between Lowder’s Bank, Atty Jack Miller (BoT member as well as lead Counsel for Colonial Bank) Jimmy Rane (BoT Member whose Lumber Company’s primary commercial banking relationship is with Colonial Bank, Also owning Colonial Bank Stock worth over $2.4Million), would allow Lowder and his “Minority” vote could influence the “Majority”. They also noted Lowder & Co.’s involvement in both the Dye-PFP and Bowden termination as Micromanagement.

    CHAPTER 4 – Chizik (source: ESPN: editorial via Google with added supposition)

    1) Rane makes contact with Houston Nutt in 2008 mid-season, violating the search notification clause in TTubs’ Contract Renegotiation after JetGate.

    2) Nutt tells Sexton (his Agent), which in turn tells Tubs who is also a Sexton Client. Tubs resigns, gets a huge settlement, leaving Au coach less.

    3) Lowder and AU continue search, which ultimately leads to the hiring of Chizik, another Sexton client which with a 5-19 record would knowingly jump at any opportunity to enhance his resume. Chizik also was familiar with Lowder, Dye, and Co., as he previously acted as DC under Tubs, making him a perfect “puppet” for Lowder and crew to manipulate. Chizik’s Recruiting Coordinator is TTaylor –

    PART THREE (III)- THE CORRUPTION, TIES TO GAMBLING, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, AND LOBBYISTS

    Before the actual events and behind the scene motivations of CamGate can be fully understood, one needs to comprehend the inner workings of Alabama’s political system and the players pulling the strings. The course of events leading up to the wire taps, investigations, and ultimate indictments are starting to surface and are becoming VERY VERY interesting……

    1st is an Article in the Tuskegee News dated October 21st. In short, the writer suggests a lobbying/consulting group has been used by the Auburn Athletic Foundation to launder cash ultimately ending up in the hands of players/player families. Robert Geddie was a partner in the firm Fine-Geddie until his indictment and arrest in October. According to the Department of Justice, (Geddie) was nailed for allegedly working with the state’s major gambling interests to influence and/or buying votes favoring proposed gambling houses. The indictment was based primarily on intercepts (wire taps) of cell phone and land-line conversations with those now rumored to have facilitated the PFP scheme.

    This is an Amazing Read.

    LINK

    Adding fuel to the fire are the ties between former Colonial Bank Chairman Bobby Lowder (Bank of $25Billion failed earlier this year), Milton McGregor (Dog Track, Bingo, and Casino Owner), and Pat Dye (former AU Football Coach). These were the three largest shareholders of the now defunct Colonial BancGroup, a mortgage brokerage, commercial banking, and mortgage warehousing firm based in Montgomery, Al. McGregor was indicted about the same time as Geddie. Wire-taps were the backbone behind the indictments, but it has been speculated by most the FBI overheard conversations between McGregor, Rane, Dye, and coaches talking about the PFP schemes that are speculated at Auburn. What most are saying is that the FBI just stumbled into the PFP planning while gathering the voter fraud and political corruption evidence. Notice how the 1st person the FBI supposedly questioned regarding Cam and his Father was John Bond. Next, they’re going to Kenny Rodgers (this Tuesday). Speculation is the Feds are gathering the bits and pieces from the MSU side which can be proven or substantiated with the wire tap tapes they have between all of these AU Boosters, and then are going to the AU side corner those suspects either in perjured testimony, or extortion charges relating to this unintended evidence. Once they are able to turn the smaller players, the FBI will turn the pleas against the real targets, in very much the same fashion as the Edwin Edwards and William Jefferson Cases.

    Think about it for a minute. The FBI could care less about college football unless it involves organized gambling or extortion. They are after evidence of Voter Influence, mis-appropriation of Bank Funds, extortion, embezzlement, the ultimate goal being to gain as many assets as possible to offset the FDIC losses incurred from the Colonial failure, while punishing those behind the schemes.

    Remember TMZ’s report and why the FBI was involved in the 1st place. They implied that the FBI is more interested in efforts to shop players around, not just a single player (extortion). This was again confirmed Friday, November 12th when John Bond stated the reason for the FBI’s questioning was that “They don’t want people selling kids to colleges.” This ties into the AgentGate BS all of the governing bodies came unglued about earlier this summer. One editorial out of Mobile included this little gem the other day – With Milton McGregor involved in this as an Auburn booster watch out. The FBI has listened to every phone conversation from his office in the past year. He is the dirtiest multi-millionaire in Alabama.

    Fast forward to this past Thursday, November 11th. The NCAA meets with Auburn officials supposedly to discuss the previous two weeks news reports. Upon conclusion of that meeting, the “We’ve done absolutely nothing wrong, Cam is Innocent, this is a Witch Hunt” being spewed by both the University and the Athletic Department suddenly changed to “No Comment.” Auburn quickly lawyered up with an experienced NCAA Compliance Firm. They also hired a longtime NCAA investigator which acted as a consultant when Albert Means and Alabama went down in 2001-2002. What is interesting here is the relationship between McGregor, Geddie (Lobbyist), and an election for State Supreme Court Judge. Here’s what was posted on BOL about the relationships between everyone.

    Finebaum participated two years ago in a Paul Finebaum Roast to benefit an organization called “The Children’s First Trust Fund” I am not sure if I have the name correct. A lot of sports celebrities and very powerful people were at this roast. This organizations top donor was Quincy’s 777, which is McGregor’s Casino. This organization was incorporated by the Chief Justice of our Supreme Court in Alabama, Justice Sue Bell Cobb. The money from the tobacco lawsuits go into this trust fund and it is about 50-60 million a year. If I were an FBI agent that amount of money would make me look. Sue Bell Cobb ran a campaign for Chief Justice that cost about 13 million dollars which was the most expensive state run campaign for a supreme court seat in the history of the US compared to one other in Texas. However Alabama only has 4 million people so why is controlling our supreme court so important? Now go back and look at why Milton McGregor was indicted. (He is accused of buying legislative votes on the gambling bill) People in this state are so stupid that they think Bob Riley, our governor, has a political agenda against Milton and that his indictment was just about bingo gambling. People in this state are so stupid that they have no idea what is really going on here. Link to the roast is below with a list of their donors. Notice Quincy 777 (Milton McGregor) is at the top of the list.

    LINK

    Now let’s look at the Law Firm Auburn hired, Lightfoot, Franklin & White in Birmingham. Look back to link that tells who all the powerful donors are and scroll down to the bronze donors and see if you see what law-firm you see listed there. Oh my…it’s Lightfoot, Franklin, & White. Now let’s take a look back to our organization, “Alabama Children First” and ask ourselves what that once great humanitarian Adolph Hitler said.

    He said, “if you do it in the name of children you can get away with murder”

    Another BOL poster suggested, after reading the post noted above that “Someone needs to be looking into the allegations of the AU Boosters using this Children’s Fund Foundation to fly players, players parents, boosters, around to and from games, events, and other University functions.”

    McGregor, Geddie, and the rest were arrested on October 4th, 2010. Cam signed with Auburn December 31st, 2009. If the wiretaps were the basis for their arrests and Cam was one of the PFP players noted, the dots must be starting to become connected. The Following link is to the actual indictment filed by the US Attorney. In it are details about the date of the calls, the substance of those conversations relative to the case against the defendants.

    LINK

    Again, this thing now goes way beyond PFP schemes, and it appears the FED’s goal is to build the ultimate case against Bobby Lowder. Here is what is being said about Lowder’s tie in to all of this.

    This goes way beyond Cam. They say the FBI, while monitoring the Bingo mess in Montgomery and also investigating the misappropriation of TARP funds by Colonial Bank, uncovered many, many things. Such things include guaranteed winning slot machines for AU players at Milt’s (Colonial Board member, AU Booster) Casino, unmarked ATM cards issued to AU players from Colonial Bank (Bobby Lowder-AU Board Member and Booster; Pat Dye-Colonial Board member, AU employee and Booster), forgiven loans to families, friends, donors, etc.

    If true, big time jail time, loss of SACS accreditation which means expulsion from the SEC, huge financial implications for AU, removal of Dye’s name from the field and so on.

    This also explains why the AU President wanted to sit Cam last Saturday, but was overridden by Lowder, Dye, Jacobs, Rane and McGregor

    The FBI must have overheard discussions about players on tape while the FBI was building their case against those arrested. It was reported the Department of Justice in July began notifying various politicians, reporters, lobbyists and others that their conversations may have been picked up during wire-taps. The phone taps occurred during a 13 Month period starting mid-2009, just about the same time as the total collapse of Colonial BancGroup was taking place. Late 2009 – early 2010 would have been when recruiting was at its height, and money and deals (if this pay for play scheme was in fact in full operation) had to have been discussed every day. This was also just before the Legislative Session would have been in discussions/ negotiations regarding Sweet Home Alabama (Res 44), the states gambling and casino bill.

    Here is another poster from “Tidesports”, the Bama Scout.com affiliate similar to “Tiger Rag”…

    “I previously posted an unsubstantiated rumor I read somewhere that Milton McGregor, the owner of Victoryland dog track, and according to recent articles an Auburn BOT member, was involved in the Newton saga as the conduit for the cash. According to the story, the FBI had wire-taps of McGregor because of this gambling conspiracy, and on those wire taps were conversations that took place between McGregor and Cecil Newton. The timeline fits as the FBI arrested McGregor in October, 2010 and according to MSU, the Cam shopping didn’t start until late November, 2009. Is McGregor stupid enough to continue his role in the pay for play deal for Auburn even after he knew the Feds were watching? I don’t know. But it’s funny that you find this article after I saw the allegation that Milton McGregor was the money man for Auburn. It would be real convenient and easy to launder money and hide it with an operation like Victoryland that handles huge amounts of cash on a daily basis.

    Another thing your article alluded to that was commonly known, but never said out loud was how Bobby Lowder became so powerful in Auburn athletic circles. Ole Bobby controlled the purse strings. If you were an Auburn BOT member and you wanted your business to continue to have funds readily available, you played ball with Bobby and did what he wanted or Colonial Bank would find a reason to make your business dealings difficult i.e. they would slow down or cut off the money. And they ALL did business with Colonial as you can see. I’m sure he sucked them all in with sweet deals and promises then when he got his hooks into them, they either did what Bobby wanted or Bobby would get nasty.,

    As a point of reference, here’s a partial list of AU’s BoT when all of this was supposedly going down:

    Link: LINK

    Bobby Lowder
    John CH Miller, Jr
    Earlon C. McWhorter
    Jimmy Rane
    Paul Spina

    Recognize any Names/Faces? Now look at the Colonial BancGroup Board of Directors the last full year of Operation December 31, 2007.

    Link: LINK

    Bobby Lowder
    John HC Miller
    Jimmy Rane
    Paul Spina – Montgomery, Al. Bank Chairman
    Milton McGregor
    Pat Dye

    Very easy to see why the Tuskegee News was so interested in the relationship between Lowder and the other Auburn Board members.

    PART FOUR (IV) – THE 2010 CLASS, W&L, TROOPER TAYLOR, AND CAMGATE

    Coach Chiz was hired December 13th, 2008. Auburn’s Class consisted of 28 players being signed, ranked 25th in the Country (LSU #1, Bama #2, Fla. #5, UGA #6, USCe #12, UTenn, #15, ARKY. #20, Ole Miss #22, Miss. St. #23). AU’s top rated player that year was DeAngelo Benton, a highly sought after, but academically troubling player from La. that had originally committed to LSU. Production thus far in his career is just 7 receptions for only 103 yards.

    The 2010 Class, built primarily on the efforts of Trooper Taylor (as per AU Football Media Propaganda), miraculously lands the #1 players from Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, as well as the #1 JUCO signee in Cam Newton. Why the turnaround, when their previous season only netted a 7-5 regular season record (3-5 SEC), along with an overtime win against Northwestern on New Year’s Day.

    Enter CamGate, Lowder & Co., and Trooper Taylor.

    The Rodgers/Bodn/Mullen/Cecil/SEC/NCAA/FBI Timeline (as per TD poster Ilovebama):

    • Before 2009 Egg Bowl, Ken Rodgers talked with Cecil, who said “It’s not gonna be free this time.”

    • Nov 27th, 2009 Ken Rodgers meets Cam and Dan, for the first time.

    • Nov 27th, 2009 Ken, Cecil, and two coaches meet at Hilton Garden Inn, where Cecil says “Anywhere between $100,000 and $180,000.” coaches respond ‘No, no, I don’t want to hear that,’

    • Nov 29th, 2009 Ken leaves Bill Bell a voicemail asking if the deal is going to get done

    • Bell was contacted by Cecil Newton asking for money

    • Bell calls Bond and urges Bond to tell MSU officials.

    • Bond calls Byrne

    • Dec 14th, 2009 Cam pushes committing back to Dec 22nd, 2009

    • Dec 20th, 2009 Cam visits Auburn, Dad was not there

    • Cam commits Dec 31st

    Trevon Reed is a solid to Strong LSU verbal, until very late in the process when he abruptly changes his mind to Auburn, against the better judgment of his high school coach. Similar waffling is also experienced with Dyer, Coleman, and Others. It has been mentioned there exists a recorded conversation between TTaylor and McGregor discussing the progress in wrapping up this class. To paraphrase, ”… just one more deal to cut and it’s all done. Then there’s a mention of needing $200K to close it out.”

    HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

    The totally amazing thing is that even though there have been sanctions levied against all of Lowder’s “bag-men” and puppets, they still are allowed to wander freely about the University carrying on like nothing has ever happened. The Field is named after the notorious Pat Dye, even though he was recorded and caught coordinating a $9,000 loan from where, Colonial Bank. Don’t forget that Dye was both AD and head coach. Jump Forward to 2010. Cecil’s Church suddenly “Rises from the Dead” (no pun intended) and is no longer involved in condemnation proceedings with Local Authorities. Pre Chris Low, Pat Forde, and Others at ESPN, comment on how Newton’s Church and home are meager, but he drives up for the interview in a $60,000 truck less than a year old?

    THE NOW INFAMOUS W&L –

    Follow these questions with the now infamous post of W&L on BOL earlier in the week.

    unlike Aubs and Gadsden, and (insert recruit X here) being sold to Bama, this tale of cheating is factual and fatal. I cannot nor will I say anything other than this.

    Auburn is going on probation for a very long time. enjoy playing cam yesterday to keep Bama from Atlanta. enjoy playing cam so that you could give your fans a send off to Atlanta. enjoy watching a player who gave your program the finger kneel at the goalpost so your “family” could be fooled again. He and his family could care less about you.

    Save it…..repeat it..put in on the bunker………mark my word and my reputation (which means nothing at all in the true sense of the word after all..this is an internet board for goodness sake..VBG)

    You are about to be publically humiliated and punished harder than any College Football team in history..except SMU.

    Cam will be stricken from your record books. All wins, championships, and records will be gone. You will spend a decade at the BOTTOM of the SEC West, and financial hits will devastate your entire school (note..not the AD alone).

    You will reinforce your reputation as the most corrupt college program in history. You will be forced to change the name of your “field”. You will lose to Alabama for a decade if not more. And finally, if leadership can be brought to the forefront, (and yes, this is the only prediction about which I cannot put forth what I consider strong evidence), you will be kicked out of the Southeastern Conference in a unanimous vote.

    Enjoy this limited run. And Will Collier..yes I know you will read this post…Hell is REALLY coming to burn your program to the ground. Go ahead and get your “conspiracy theories” ready..go ahead and try to figure out how you can claim championships that were rightfully stripped from you..go ahead and focus on how you will bring down Alabama, your singular obsession in life.

    Your hell continues this week……….we here plan to enjoy your pain.

    Payoffs with Poker Chips, Colonial Bank ATM Cards, guaranteed winnings at McGregor’s casinos, similar to that of Langford. Too many coincidences mean too much smoke. Everyone knows this can only lead to a firestorm, the kind only experienced in Hell.

    AUBURN’S SLIPPERY SLOPE

    • January, 2010 Byrne (MSU)reports to SEC

    • SEC responds wanting more information, into allegations

    • MSU waits because they are working on eligibility’s issues relating to their Basketball program, currently in season

    • SEC contacts NCAA

    • NCAA-SEC get with MSU

    • During this time, the Church managed by Newton was in financial trouble and facing eviction but suddenly had enough cash to do extensive renovations to meet building codes.

    • Newton’s father owned a small trucking company with two drivers. After Newton signed they were flushed with so many contracts that a dozen drivers were hired.

    • OCTOBER 4TH, 2010. McGregor, Geddie, and others with political ties Lowder and Co. are indicted and arrested, based on taped conversations held during the previous 13 months.

    • 10/21/2010 Dan Mullen goes on Rivals radio ASKED… how close were you to getting Cam at MSU …Dan Mullen: “that’s a long long story …that be in the book.”

    • Nov 4th, Bond releases statement “During the 2009 football season, I was contacted by a former football teammate, who represented to me that he was speaking for the Newton camp. He told me that Cam Newton wanted to play at Mississippi State, but that a specified payment would have to be made. I reported the conversation to the Mississippi State Athletic Department. I was told by the Athletic Department that Mississippi State would not respond to the overture that was made to me, and that Mississippi State would continue to recruit Cam Newton as it does any other football recruit.”

    • MSU: “We are comfortable that representatives of Mississippi State University’s interests conducted themselves appropriately and in compliance with all NCAA by-laws. Mississippi State is committed to operating our athletics programs within the rules of the NCAA and Southeastern Conference, and we expect those affiliated with our program to continue to do the same.”

    • Cecil Newton, the quarterback’s father, denied the allegations to ESPN.com. “If Rogers tried to solicit money from Mississippi State, he did it on his own, without our knowledge,” he told the website.

    • Chizik: “I’m standing up here on a very important week trying to defend something that quite frankly is garbage,” Chizik told reporters. “Is there a wizard behind the curtain? I don’t know. Is there one, is there two, are there 10? I don’t know and I don’t care. But what I do care about is coming to the defense of not only a great football player but a great human being who comes from a great family.”

    • Nov 8th, Foxsports.com reports that Newton was caught cheating three times at Florida.

    • Nov 9th, Auburn AD called cheating allegations “sad”. “Cam is by all accounts a great kid.”

    • Nov 9th, ESPN.com’s Joe Schad reported that “two sources who recruit for Mississippi State” said in separate phone conversations that Cam Newton’s decision to commit to a school “would be part of a pay-for-play” plan.

    • FBI gets involved in the MSU portion of the investigation, as they are already well trenched in the Auburn/Lowder/McGregor and friends side.

    • Nov 10th, Once the NCAA enforcement staff became involved, Mississippi State University cooperated fully with its investigation. MSU is confident the SEC office has managed this process consistent with its established procedures and the university is committed to the conference’s ongoing efforts to ensure compliance with SEC and NCAA rules.

    • Nov 11th, “The SEC never received information from MSU about phone calls with the Newton’s about pay for play,” SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said in an e-mail Thursday.

    • Nov 11th, Bond releases a statement. “My story hasn’t changed. I absolutely talked with Kenny Rogers, and there are phone records that will show that.” Bond said he’s scheduled to meet with the FBI on Tuesday and plans to turn over his phone records and anything else they ask for at that point. He said the FBI reached out to his attorney earlier this week wanting to talk with him about the Newton situation, in particular if kids were being shopped out to colleges. That meeting was originally scheduled for Wednesday, but was postponed by the FBI until next Tuesday. “Until I speak with the FBI, I’d prefer not to say much more,”

    • Nov 11th Rogers admits, after previously denying, that in fact Cecil Newton had asked for money to recruit his son to play at MSU.

    • Nov 11th Bill Bell says he was contacted and asked for payment by Cecil Newton and he has been interviewed by the NCAA

    • Nov 12th Jay Jacobs says “We aren’t commenting on it”

    • Bond to meet FBI on November 16th, later said “This has nothing to do with Auburn, Absolutely nothing to do with Auburn. The FBI does not want anyone selling the right to players”

    • Rodgers to meet with NCAA around November 16th

    • Nov 12th, Cecil Newton admits to asking for money from MSU in exchange for Cam to play there.

    • Nov 12th, ESPN reports that a source stated that he was contacted by an emotional Cam Newton stating his regret that he would not be playing for MSU, as his father had chosen Auburn because “the money was too much”.

    • Nov 13th, Despite all of the above evidence, Auburn Still Plays Newton

    Remember EVERYONE has now lawyered up, and remember the change of heart from “He’s clean!” to the “No Comment” response. Here’s what is being said by those in the “know”……… Auburn did not suspend Cam because the NCAA didn’t tell them to. They let Auburn make the decision and then after the fact will hammer them for doing something “they should not have done” Right now All Auburn cares about is beating Bama, winning the SEC getting Cam the Heisman, playing and perhaps winning the MNC, and marketing the hell out of their success..and deal with the NCAA later. And for those wondering why people thought Cam wouldn’t play… it’s because the president, the compliance dept and a couple of coaches all wanted to sit Cam. THAT is why so many people were sure Cam would sit. They knew what these guys were saying. HOWEVER, the AD, boosters and the rest of the coaches wanted to play him. It’s clear the president and the compliance dept weren’t being listened to. All of this is an exact repetition of what the SACS complained about in 2001-2004. It was only after strong urging from the Governor stressing to the accreditation board they were fixing the problem. Some Repair.

    Now, take into account the similarities of the BoT and Colonial, and the ability to launder money through the various foundations becomes mind-boggling. Also don’t forget that McGregor is major gambling, betting houses, casino business, and is reportedly now the main money-man between the Boosters and Newton. Now are you starting to see what is so disturbing to both the FBI and the NCAA? In short, Major Gambling tied into illegal activities in College Athletics. Also don’t forget Saturday’s game with Georgia had the line pulled not once, but twice. Think inside information was being passed? This is not going to end well, and why so many are speculating Auburn’s dismissal from the SEC and ultimately Athletic Death Penalty. This is also the speculation as to why Mike Slive tried to drag his feet regarding the investigation hoping it would just go away. Now look at what is being reported in Sunday’s New York Times, specifically the quote…….

    “But what could happen in the next few weeks is a nightmare script for the N.C.A.A., the SEC and college football. From the involvement of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to the gluttonous news media attention, the story is one of the most explosive in the history of college football.”

    LINK

    It looks like everyone has a lot of the same information, but from varying sources. This is the same guy that broke the Cam Cheating information a week ago. By the way, Supposedly, some reporter sent out a blase e-mail to the Faculty or Student Body questioning Cam’s attendance in class. From his responses and subsequent notations, it seems Cam has been skipping the majority of classes according to those in the know.

    I’m not sure how this will end, or the validity of what is being reported. But I can tell you most in Alabama think there is a major bomb getting ready to drop, and this is being reported on both sides. Whatever the outcome, this story sounds like something from a Grisham Novel, Huh?

  55. 103
    JDcahill

    Now you guys want to kick the BO BO around here it is. Kick it, If any of this comes out to be true then Hammah’s right. The Barns going to burn……

  56. 104
    mandy

    Dont you have to have my permission to do all that shite. I think you can tell by my attitude you wouldnt get within 50 ft. of my arse. I would do some serious damage. BTW who is bammer playing today? I forgot.

  57. 105
    AUtiger47

    Hasn’t bama been on probation 17 of the last 20 years… And is currently on probation????? Talk about throwing stones in glass houses.

  58. 107
    JDcahill

    Hey Bub, I don’t see you posting anything in your defence, You guys know it’s over. AU won’t recover from this

  59. 110
    mandy

    Who cares about that junk. Nothing will become of that shite. When someone gets some proof let me know. This subject is getting old. The only reason bammer trash is beating a dead horse is cuz you dont have a game to play in. GL in that dump bowl game you losers will play in and probably lose…lol.

  60. 111
    JDcahill

    They say Cams taking his classes online, different girls leaving his room all day. Perhaps taking his classes for him, a friends son goes to AU, he tells me Cams been hitting everything on campus, probably getting some of those pretty white panties a little dirty, hey! thats what the kid said, not me, and he’s a barner

  61. 113
    JDcahill

    Thats some funny sh*t dude, is that all u have, Hell I guess if u guys can’t kick the BO BO around I’ll go watch some football.

  62. 114
    mandy

    Yeah he can probably pick and choose who he wants including white or black. I wouldnt go with him cuz for one reason Im prejudice. Dont change the fact hes the best football player in america.

  63. 115
    crimson hammah

    THAT S WHAT U SAID ABOUT REGGIE BUSH OJ SIMPSON BTK KILLER SCOTT PETERSON JACK THE RIPPER -(THE ONLY ONE U WERE RIGHT ON)

  64. 116
    crimson hammah

    everybody bet on au now so it will be fixed for the cocks …the game is being decided by the betting public and it is the opposite of how they bet …check urself vegasinsider.com

  65. 117
    28-27

    IT DOESN”T MATTER. The NCAA makes the rules, the NCAA can change the rules if they want to. IT’s their organization, their rules, they can do whatever the hell they want. If they want to make Cam eligible they will because they’ll make money off it.

  66. 119
    28-27

    Hammah, you do know that most of the money was on Alabama for the national championship game last year right? And they still won.

  67. 121
    28-27

    That makes no sense. Why would they fix it just based on late money if the overall money was still on bama…they still lose money that way.

  68. 123
    JDcahill

    Mike Slive, C,. Newtons actions will not be tollerated in the SEC. Well looks like that was a pile of BS. because he’s still letting it go on. He should go on an retire.

  69. 124
    crimson hammah

    football is still live and stuff happens and the goodfella guy said he had 9 games fixed and won 6 lost 3 and made half a million in late 70s – bc players sentenced to 10 yrs federal prison served 3….they had no idea the games were fixed until goodfella told them….

  70. 125
    28-27

    No money changed hands. This is a loophole in the rules. 100% chance the rules are changed after this year, but for Cam they won’t apply.

  71. 128
    28-27

    I’m pretty sure to fix a came both parties need to know it’s fixed. You’re not some sort of great prophet or even a smart guy. You’re just a fan with dumb conspiracy theories

  72. 129
    crimson hammah

    U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – OVER 300K WORTH OF CASH FALSE BUSINESS PROFITS AND BUSINESS CONTRATS CHANGED HANDS AND THE MISS STATE ASST KNOWS HOW THEY DID IT.,..THE MEDIA IS IN THE DARK ON THIS STORY,,,NO ONE REPORTED CAM’S DAY LONG INELIGIBILITY

  73. 130
    crimson hammah

    ROGERS ACTED ON HIS OWN HE WAS NOT REPRESENTING THE NEWTON’S AND THAT IS SOME SERIOUS FELONY MISREPRESENTATION PER AU FANBASE ,,,,,,,,,,,LMAO

  74. 131
    28-27

    Changed hands between whom? So you’re saying Miss St. paid him? Why would they pay him then have him go to Auburn?

  75. 132
    crimson hammah

    CRIMSON HAMMAH U BETTER GET A GOOD LAWYER FOR UR SLANDERING OF A GOOD MAN OF GOD AND THE LAWSUITS THAT WILL RESULT – PER AU FANBASE

  76. 133
    28-27

    Where’s your proof. What kind of facts do you have to back any of this up? You can’t punish somebody based on what your barber told you he heard from another dude who know s a guy a Miss St.

  77. 134
    crimson hammah

    PER MISS ST ASST – CAM ALL SET FOR MS WHEN CAMDAD GETS A CALL FROM AU REP WITH MEGA FINANCIAL OFFER ,,,HE THEN COMES HERE AND EXPECTS US TO MAKE OFFER COME CLOSE MATCH BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE CAM WANTS TO COME….I KICK HIS DIRTY AZZ OUT OF THE STARKVILLE HOTEL MEETING ROOM,,,I FOLLOW UP AND TRACE HOW AU FUNNELED CAMDAD THE MONEY….CHECKMATE

  78. 135
    28-27

    Right where are you getting this info. How do you know it’s true. It’s just he said, he said. You need some hard proof man like documents and financial records. Lawyered.

  79. 136
    crimson hammah

    TIMEOUT – PER CAM – TOO MUCH MONEY AND TOLD BLINN ROOMMATES EVERYTHING

    THAT ALONE GETS SEASON VACATED MORE TO COME AND AU GETS 5 YRS OF DEATH…

    AU PLAYERS PAID A MINIMUM OF 17 PLAYERS WITH RIGGED BINGO MACHINES AND UNMARKED ATM CARDS

  80. 139
    crimson hammah

    STRAIGHT FROM THE MISS ST ASST COACH IN JULY WHEN CAM WAS A TWIG…PER NCAA TO MULLEN WE BELIEVE U AND EVERYBODY AGREES TO WHAT HAPPENED….CECIL EXTORTED MS FACE TO FACE ….MIKE SLIVE SHEETED ON A BLACK…..PREACHER….FATHER OF A STUDENT ATHLETED….TO THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE…..

  81. 142
    crimson hammah

    HE IS CECIL NEWTON HE IS MISS ST ASST COACH TESTIMONY IN JULY…..PER NCAA ADVANTAGE MS ASST COACH ……………..LMAO

  82. 143
    crimson hammah

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    ALL MONEY ON SC SO FAR SPREAD DOWN TO 4
    AU LOCK SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

  83. 144
    crimson hammah

    ccccccccccccoooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaansssssssssssssssssssss

    a few boards back up to 4.5 cmon cocks

  84. 145
    JDcahill

    Players talked about the money online with each other for the whole damn world to c…….Cam newton will go pro while the barn burns to the ground

  85. 147
    crimson hammah

    vegasinsider,com

    every board down to 4 / 3.5 one board went from 4 to 4.5

    BIG FIX FOR AU – UNLESS IT SWINGS LAST 15 MINUTES

  86. 150
    JDcahill

    Hey Hammah Scams looking a little funny. Ran out there and just fell down. He’s also acting like he’s a little winded

  87. 151
    JDcahill

    I’m hoping he’s betting against himself, wouldn’t that be cool, will see if he throws some interception. I’m hoping AU leading at the half

  88. 154
    JDcahill

    3 dropped passes by D. Adams, sure thought him and scam were sitting around the dorm talking about how they could make some cash

  89. 155
    crimson hammah

    21 7 fishiness set in but last second scam gets it to the over – they can’t look to obvious and have to leave room for a fix on the 2nd half only scoring

  90. 162
    JASON4BAMA

    AU problem in a nutshell

    Its not about Cam. Its about Colonial Bank boosters and BOT members. It doesn’t matter what happened at MSU and it really doesn’t matter if AU paid Cam. If federal indictments against former Colonial Bank folks mention players being paid it is all over.

  91. 164
    crimson hammah

    CAM WAS CLEARED BY ACADEMIC AFFAIRS DEPT NOTHING TO DO WITH ENFORCEMENT….ENFORCEMENT ONGOING INVESTIGATION.PER JOE SCHAD THE CONTACT THAT TOLD HIM THE “TOO MUCH MONEY” HAD NOT BEEN INTERVIEWED BY NCAA BUT HAD BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT AN INTERVIEW….
    AS FAR AS SEASON GETTING AT LEAST VACATED RIDES ON CAM KNOWING…5 YR SO CAL TYPE PROBATION RIDES ON LOWDER DYE

  92. 166
    crimson hammah

    ANOTHER REASON TO DESPISE AU
    IN THE REGGIE BUSH SAGA WHERE DOES ALMOST EVERY TOP RECRUIT GO OUT WEST-USC-IF NO MONEY INVOLVED BY ANYONE I WOULD SAY REGGIE BUSH GOES TO USC…..CAM NEWTON DID NOT HAVE AU IN TOP TEN AND WAS 5 STAR QB THAT WENT TO FLA AND THE ONLY REASON HE LEFT FLA WAS ACADEMIC FRAUD AND CHEATING…THE ONLY REASON CAM IS AT AU IS 200K
    TO ME CAM IS A MS BULLDOG AND MISS ST DESERVES SEC CO CHAMPION AND A TEAM COPY HEISMAN

  93. 167
    crimson hammah

    ANOTHER REASON TO DESPISE AU
    IN THE REGGIE BUSH SAGA WHERE DOES ALMOST EVERY TOP RECRUIT GO OUT WEST-USC-IF NO MONEY INVOLVED BY ANYONE I WOULD SAY REGGIE BUSH GOES TO USC…..CAM NEWTON DID NOT HAVE AU IN TOP TEN AND WAS 5 STAR QB THAT WENT TO FLA AND THE ONLY REASON HE LEFT FLA WAS ACADEMIC FRAUD AND CHEATING…THE ONLY REASON CAM IS AT AU IS 200K
    TO ME CAM IS A MS BULLDOG AND MISS ST DESERVES SEC CO CHAMPION AND A TEAM COPY HEISMAN

    AU FANS CALL AU FANS WHO BELIEVE CAM IS INNOCENT ARE BOOGS ,,,,NOW EVERY FAN BASE IS CALLING THE STUPID WING OF THE AU FANBASE BOOGS….AND THEY ARE SYMAPATHIZING WITH BAMA FANS HAVING TO PUT WITH AU BOOGS 365

    NOW WE KNOW U JOKE ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME
    THEY ARE SKANKY PER FOOTBALL NATION

    LSU BUDDIES WHO HATE BAMA NOW HATE AU MORE
    BAMA BUDDIES IN LA NOW HATE AU MORE THAN LSU EVEN THOUGH THEY GET DERIDED BY LSU FANS WHEN LSU WINS..THEY DON’T CARE THEY LEARNED OF AU SKANK

  94. 168
    JASON4BAMA

    Everything I have been told has come true so far. The way the NCAA and the SEC handled the MSU is just a twist. The aspect of that story was that old man Newton asked for money. That proved to be true. The knowledge part the NCAA applied is just a twist. So far nothing has come out to disprove the case that has been laid out.

  95. 169
    crimson hammah

    correct and the media knows 10% of story…if au loses accreditation they might have to go through ua’s and be called uaa University of Alabama @ Auburn

  96. 175
    dave

    Still licking your wounds with all of your “conspiracies”. Why don’t you call Shane and talk it over. You could cry on each other’s shoulders.

  97. 179
    crimson hammah

    NOT CRYING RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION THAT OJ GOT AWAY WITH MURDER AND JORAN VAN DER SLOOT GOT AWAY WITH MURDER AND OBAMA GOT ELECTED PRES…

  98. 183
    crimson hammah

    PER ROBERT SMITH ESPN – REINSTATE DEPT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ENFORCEMENT ….
    FBI NOT KNOWN FOR SPEEDINESS NOT KNOWN FOR SLOPPINESS EITHER

    5 WEEKS UNTIL TITLE GAME

    TODD MCSHAY – IT IS A DAMN SHAME BUT U HAVE TO VOTE FOR NEWTON

  99. 185
    crimson hammah

    PER THE NATION ON AU GOING TO TITLE – WE FEEL THE SAME AS WE FELT WHEN OJ WAS DECLARED INNOCENT OF MURDER IN CRIMINAL TRIAL-WTH? JURY WTH? NCAA

  100. 187
    crimson hammah

    congrats to real au fans who know they are toast but were able to enjoy the game on the field…winning is better than losing

  101. 189
    crimson hammah

    auburn has never played in a title game or bowl game with title implications….

    bama in 25 26 30 34 37 45 61 64 65 66 73 74 75 77 78 79 92 09 and maybe more

    18>0

  102. 190
    FinebaumJunkie

    Still posting that ignorant crap I see. Oh well, it’s all good. You can say it all you want but it aint gonna happen Hammah so have fun typing it U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT. LMFAO WAR EAGLE FELLA.

  103. 191
    FinebaumJunkie

    If I ever need to borrow some money, Im coming to see you Hammah. You must be loaded with all that gambling and game fixing knowledge you have. LMAO you are truely a pathetic ass.

  104. 192
    crimson hammah

    Have not missed a game this yr – my only losses are halves and over under…missed on ok ne – seemed pretty clear the spread went down therefore a fix for over…maybe the bookies had such a great day throught the public a bone….

    figuring at winner of these games is so simple a cave man could do it….

    au lock over.under a lock

  105. 194
    crimson hammah

    finebaum – r u a boog? or r u a reasonable au fan?

    boog by au fan definition is an au fan who believes cam did not know what dad was doing?

  106. 195
    crimson hammah

    if bama is dirty they are going a terrible job…joe mcknight loves bama loves saban but he comes home from usc recruiting trip and in a bar in new orleans lifts up huge roll of 100s and says “so cal knows how to take care of their players”

  107. 196
    crimson hammah

    my take on cyrus k – cyrus came along on brother arie’s visit – cyrus was overwhelmed by bama and his attitude toward bama locked up arie for bama….no way cyrus bails on brother when he influenced ,,,no insider-just my take on reading between the lines of actual quotes.

  108. 197
    FinebaumJunkie

    Does it matter what I think? The ncaa has spoken and all is right. Are you a boog? You really think all is good and clean in Tuscaloosa, or any other program for that matter? My point is he was ruled eligible and everybody is bitching. I can say the investigation is ongoing, but Auburn is the last school that should be worried.

  109. 198
    FinebaumJunkie

    People can cry all they want, but if you are waiting on games being vacated you are wasting your time. The rule will be changed, I will give you that. No matter the loophole that helped us will be fixed. If you want to call it skating, thats fine. We will be skating our asses straight to Glendale bro.

  110. 199
    FinebaumJunkie

    Hammah, Im not trying to be a ass dude. Just like a little smack talk is all. I gotta cut out early tonite. Between not sleeping at all friday and the game today, I’m wore out lol. See ya later.

  111. 200
    BamaHate

    Must suck to be mid tier and not have anything to talk about save AU. It makes my day.

    I hope you guys suck next year too.

  112. 201
    BPI

    Hammah, you fruitloop…..When a team wins by 39 the “apread” kinda” goes out the window….

    That was a clinic boys and girls….A flat out clinic….

    We are playing our best football of the year, and we will be the 2010 National Champs….Cam will win the Heisman…We have already won the SEC….

    It must rweally, really suck to be an Alabama fam…..We come in and basicly one up you after the greatest season Alabama has ever had. Don’t even try to tell me there was another one better than your 14-0 / heisman winner year…Aint buyin’ it.

    We put up with all of your fanbases arrogant crap for a full year. After hearing we would “never , ever know what it feels like to accomplish what Alabama has just accomplished” , we did, and are…

    ITK, you are a spineless coward…You run away when you don’t want to take your medicine.

    As far as you rubes saying ” you lose all your players and will stink next year ” . Not so fast, we were not given a chance this year either. Mahlzahn might go , Cam might go, and Fairley might go….But this does not mean we go 5-7 next year.

    Your team loses a lot as well. Add that to the premadonna attitude that is so prevalent at Tuscaloosa , and THAT is a recipe for disaster….Worry about yourselves, goodness knows there is enough to worry about.

  113. 202
    Almightytmc1

    Congrats To Cam Newton and all the lying two faced Auburn scum. You are despicable and beneath contempt.
    Go F*ck yourselves.
    Yeah just keep going and maybe you can get even with all of the things Bama did LAST YEAR.

  114. 204
    BPI

    Little sour are we tmc ? It’s funny how all your players can actually receive some sort of payment, gift , money, or service and it’s o.k. because the NCAA cleared you….Cam has not been proven , nor will be proven to have taken one red cent and its Katy bar the door…Now tell me who the lying two faced scum is…

    Yeah , Cecil was wrong for waht he did, and I dont think much of him if all of that is true , and it probably is …But look at the ramifications of this rule…

    All an opposing team would have to do is claim solicitation, or even provoke solicitation, and the player gets blackballsed.

    It don;t matter though….Your bases jealousy is going to shine through the facts. So why bother ?

    Any how ….ITS GREAT TO BE AN AUBURN TIGER !!!!!

    Why did your team suck so bad this year ?

  115. 206
    crimson hammah

    tracy is a hot sexy lady…

    cam and oj – i c a fambly resemblance fo sho…

    per jimmy johnson/fox sports – cam will go pro before the posse goes to town

  116. 208
    crimson hammah

    NOT SOUR GRAPES – RIGHTEOUS INDIGATION – WHEN OJ GOT OFF FOR MURDER – JORAN VAN DER SLOOT AND NO MURDER CHARGES – IT IS AN OUTRAGE-AND THE NCAA ENFORCEMENT DIVISION HAS NOT SPOKEN…EVERY DECENT HUMAN BEING SAYS CAM KNEW

  117. 209
    crimson hammah

    TIM **** ON FACEBOOK JAN 2010 SAID CAM SAID AU WAS GIVING HIM A BUNCH OF MONEY AND HIS DAD WAS LOOKIN FOR A NEW RIDE

  118. 213
    mandy

    You think I would take a swallow of Cam Newtons drink or any other athlete or anybody for that matter let alone somebody black. That bitch is nuts.

  119. 217
    crimson hammah

    who doesn’t care? the skanks,the barners,the filthy,the cheaters,the thieves,the sleazy,the criminals,oj simpson,the sluts,mandy,joran van der sloot,obama,al-queda,the low-life trash,the inbreds,the morons, the retards,

  120. 224
    Autiger47

    Hammah,

    You’re referencing an article on a Buckeye’s fan site as “proof” of you ridiculous claims, and wonder why we all laugh our asses off at you? Dude, you really are as dumb as I thought. Just keep typing in all caps… it really captures your ignorant-redneck mentality (i.e., when you don’t have something intelligent to say, yell).

    Best of luck in your second tier bowl!

  121. 225
    crimson hammah

    perfectly accurate and u wonder why the world the media hates au and au fans – only skank does not renounce skank

  122. 235
    BamaBrando

    You Auburn fans can finally celebrate a good season. It finally happened for you guys. for the first time in my lifetime Auburn actually gets to play for a national championship. Welcome to the club! But you guys are new to this, so don’t act like this is a common occurance. You still have a long way to go to catch up with Bama. Enjoy the ride this year, it is weird for us Bama fans to see Auburn actually become something other than just a team with a delusional and obnoxious fan base. But with all you lose this year, next year is gonna sting. So y’all will be back in denial soon enough. Y’all be sure to come back here next year and show your Auburn class, thanks again for giving the SEC another black eye. Go DUCKS!

  123. 237
    crimson hammah

    TOLD YA S0

    1 John 3:8
    He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
    1 John 3:7-9 (in Context) 1 John 3 (Whole Chapter)

  124. 238
    FinebaumJunkie

    I could give a crap about catching up with Bama. Seeing Bammers cry and moan is enough for me. And you will lose some players yourself so dont gloat too much.

  125. 243
    BamaHate

    And he that cometh at you being six foot and
    Six cubits and weighing 250lbs will breaketh apart thy noggin, and thine will know our wrath when we break it offeth in thy bung hole at JH West. For ours is the powr and glory at the Plains of the greatest valley, Auburn, amen.

  126. 244
    BamaHate

    And thine will weep and have gnashing of teeth when though sees the true power of the Auburn tigers. And knowing that though has lived in sin with the evil midget, Saban, though will call on the rocks to fall and cover ye, in order not to looketh upon the truth that though sucketh and got thy manhood taken the 1st day after Thanksgiving in the year 2010. That upon that day, thy mullet fan base had thought thy won the game and sinned in many ways, running thy mouth and throwing many monies and myrrh. But woweth be to you, get behind me Mullet and learneth thy place. Thy was castrated and eyes gouged out by the Newton laws and best team.

    I pity thy fan base for kicking others down when you were on top, now your on our tip. I just hope TN whips thine ass next year.

  127. 245
    BamaHate

    Ok no more Old English anymore. Hello losers. Congrats on the capital 1 bowl. Seriously nice bowl, not being sarcastic. Hope you whip Mich St.

    Oregon jerseys are on sale now throughout Tide Pride stores, go ahead and waste your money.

    Blowtide

  128. 246
    BamaBrando

    Don’t worry Hate, Bama will be back. Auburn cheating their way to the top is nothing new. Y’all have been trying for years, and y’all finally made it. Now you have something to tell your grandkids about. But after this season, you will fall back down again. That target is bigger than you realize. I don’t expect Auburn to go two seasons undefeated like Bama did. Everyone will be out to get Auburn next year, and without an offensive line, Chris Farley, Cam, Bynes, Stevens, etc. who is going to stop them?

  129. 247
    BPI

    According to you we didn’t have any players at the begining of this year…Perhaps you will be wrong about next year too….

  130. 248
    BamaBrando

    Ok, then how good you think you will be without your senior leadership? Auburn already had some depth issues, but luckily no injuries caused any problems. But you are insane if you think the loss of your hero Cam won’t affect next season. You have all the tough games but one on the road. And at the beginning of the year, your team didn’t look very good in squeaking by. You were getting by on a little luck and Chiziks prayers. Like I said, enjoy the NC game. This will be the first one you ever seen. I have seen Bama win 4. Can Auburn win 1?

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