What is Auburn trying to hide?

Fox Sports senior college football writer Thayer Evans examines the silence of Auburn quarterback Cam Newton. In today’s column Evans makes an important observation about Auburn.

He writes, “But the Newtons have denied any wrongdoing and Auburn is so confident in its star quarterback that it continues to play him in what could be a BCS title run, despite the risk that his father might have violated NCAA rules if he indeed solicited money for his son. Not that the Tigers haven’t taken chances before. Remember, this is Auburn, which played loosely with the rules in the past, as evidenced by its seven major violations.”

Ouch.

This is so true. Auburn’s record of compliance should trouble everyone in college football. So, why is Auburn hiding Cam Newton?

What does Auburn have to hide?

Is Auburn worried that Cam could provide further evidence of his ineligibility?

You can examine Auburn’s flimsy excuses at Fox Sports.

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  1. 2
    capstonereport

    No, but Phillip Marshall and you guys are since you’ve blamed all of these people for the Cam Newton recruiting scandal:

    1. Urban Meyer
    2. Dan Mullen
    3. Mississippi State boosters
    4. Alabama boosters
    5. The Illuminati
    6. The Council on Foreign Relations
    7. A vast conspiracy between ESPN, the New York Times and Fox to smear Auburn.

  2. 3
    Panov

    No one with any sense would let a college kid speak to the media about potential legal issues in any case. Thus, the article is dense.

  3. 4
    capstonereport

    Legal issues huh? Really?

    So, are you admitting something was amiss in the recruitment of Cam Newton?

    And, if this is the case, why won’t someone at Auburn admit that is the reason?

  4. 6
    capstonereport

    Auburn trails SMU for the most number of NCAA major sanctions by ONE.

    The Cam Newton scandal is going to tie Auburn with SMU for the most corrupt program in the history of college football.

  5. 7
    Panov

    No, an unsubstantiated allegation with no evidence does not mean that something is actually amiss. It does, however, mean that you don’t let a college kid make statements to the media.

  6. 8
    capstonereport

    Unsubstantiated?

    You have FIVE different people on record. That is pretty damn good substantiation.

    You can’t transusbstantiate your way of it. Five people confirm Cam’s family used an Agent/Runner making him INELIGIBLE. Cam’s dad is confirmed by the same five people as seeking CASH for his son. Something that also ends his amateur status.

    Just so you can’t deny it. Here are the five people.

    Agent/Runner Kenny Rogers has said to investigators and on the radio.

    Two Miss State boosters have said on the record and to investigators that Rogers and Cecil Newton sought cash.

    Two Miss State coaches told ESPN the same story.

    Five different people is pretty damn good evidence in a courtroom. What do you think the Committee on Infractions is going to say?

    Yeah. I’m sure you’ll No Comment. 🙂

  7. 9
    bamatruth

    cap nothing is going to happen to awbarn just drop it. we had our feet on their throats yesterday and let them up by getting away from our offensive game plan for some reason.we could have ended the shit on the field and we blew it its all a moot point now. i dont want a win over awbarn given to the greatest school in the nation(alabama) i want it earned on the field.is awbarn crooked? absolutelty! is there something to all this scam newton thing?probably! should bama fans even give a flying Ffuck? hell no! we lost bottom line. lets find something else to talk about besides awbarn cuz even bad publicity is good publicity!

  8. 10
    capstonereport

    Bamatruth, you are wrong if you believe nothing will happen. There is already significant evidence in the public domain to force the NCAA to take a long, serious look at things on the Plains.

    I’ll drop this when reputable media organizations like ESPN, Fox and the New York Times drop it.

    Care to guess how long that will be?

    I’m betting months. The additional scrutiny is bad publicity, and I’ll remind you that NCAA publicity isn’t very helpful to a school…much less a school with Auburn’s horrible track record of NCAA compliance.

  9. 11
    crimson hammah

    BAMA UNIVERSITY AND BAMA GRAD POLITICIANS HAVE SAVED AU FROM DEATH PENALTY AND OR SEC EXPULSION IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STATE…BUT THE HAMMER AU GETS WILL FEEL LIKE
    DEATH…ARKANSAS WINS …BAMA IN COTTON VS OK OKST OR NEBRASKA – BIG BUZZ GAME FO SHO ???

  10. 14
    Panov

    The two boosters say that Rogers solicited cash. That is quite different.

    The “recruiters” (that everyone started calling coaches, since only coaches are supposed to recruit) will turn out to be your same two boosters.

    Rogers now says Cecil wanted money, but he has changed his story at least 2 times. He also has other serious credibility issues. He is virtually worthless as a witness, especially since he is the actual wrongdoer.

    Bamatruth is correct- Cam will not be declared ineligible at Auburn. You’re investing credibility in a losing battle.

  11. 17
    capstonereport

    Cam Newton personally called one of them, according to ESPN. Would Cam call the 2 boosters? Did he have a personal relationship with the boosters that would have him apologizing? Of course not. Your theory is bull shit.

    The recruiters are Miss State reps. Plus, we know 2 Miss State coaches were approached face-to-face for cash. The coaches will verify this to the NCAA.

    And Rogers isn’t worthless as a witness. In fact in our system of justice, the conspirators are often guilty of many things themselves, but juries usually believe them when their story follows the story told by other innocent parties.

    Now, if juries believe this type of witness what do you think an Administrative Law-type panel is going to do? They are going to use his testimony to verify their theory of the case.

    Even by your theory there would be THREE different parties and one of them a conspirator. That is more than enough in a court of law. However, we know Miss State coaches were involved in at least one face-to-face approach for cash.

    So, maybe as many as SEVEN, but at least FIVE could verify the information provided by Rogers.

    NO PROOF HERE!

    Right.

    I’m going to enjoy the conspiracy theories coming out of Phillip Marshall in the next few months. 🙂

  12. 18
    crimson hammah

    PER NCAA INVESTIGATOR – THIS WILL NOT END WELL FOR AUBURN UNIVERSITY

    SO STICK UR HEAD IN THE SAND AND
    DDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
    BUYING A TIGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. 19
    Panov

    You are hanging your hat on an unnamed source who told ESPN that Cam tearfully said “the money was too much.” I think it is great to have such a clearcut question of fact. Bring forth your witness and money trail. You will find that it turns out to be a nonsense rumor.

    The coaches will say Rogers asked for cash. You will argue that Cecil being nearby makes him complicit in solicitation.

    Auburn’s team of attorneys, and the attorneys who have spoken to the media, all think that Auburn is fine under the facts that currently exist. The only people saying something contrary to that are bloggers. As the NCAA president hinted, bloggers don’t care about burden of proof, they just want an exciting story.

    If the NCAA doesn’t have sufficient facts at this time to reach a conclusion adverse to Auburn, then you sure don’t.

  14. 20
    crimson hammah

    NO U STUPID IGNORANT SLUT – WE ARE HANGING OUR HATS ON A MISS ST ASST WHO HAD A FACE TO FACE WITH CECIL NEWTON AND NEWTON SHOOK HIM DOWN AND THE MISS ST COACH TOLD HIM I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MONEY CONFIRMED BY ROGERS…DONE FINISH – DEAD SKANK WALKING – GOOD NEWS LOWDER AND DYE GONE FOREVER

  15. 21
    capstonereport

    MAJOR publications such as ESPN, the NY Times and Fox do not make a habit of printing rumors. This is as close to perfect as you’ll get. We have multiple people on the record, and we have two highly placed Miss State sources confirming important details.

    You don’t need a money trail at all to declare Cam Newton ineligible. All you need is the testimony that Cam’s family engaged with an AGENT/RUNNER. That automatically makes him ineligible. Rogers is an agent. Period. Auburn knew of this association with Rogers in the summer and failed to declare Newton ineligible and request reinstatement. That is at a minimum failure to monitor, but in this case is likely to rise to Lack of Institutional Control.

    If you believe what Auburn says in this investigation, but you ignore the reports of major media outlets then you are the one with the problem.

    I’m going to have fun watching the misery of a group of people so myopic.

  16. 22
    crimson hammah

    AND PER DAN MULLEN VIA INTERVIEW WITH RIVALS RADIO-THOSE WITH MISS ST WHO HAD A STORY TO TELL TOLD THEIR STORY AND THE NCAA BELIEVE THEIR SIDE AND “EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED”
    U R DEAD – RIDE UR DEAD HORSE TIL THE END AND THE END IS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER

  17. 23
    crimson hammah

    MISS ST ASST COACH SAID ALL THIS AND MORE IN JULY WHEN CAM HAD GOT OUTPLAYED IN SPRING GAME ….AND ALL HAS BEEN DEAD ON

  18. 24
    Panov

    Hammah– last night you said Alabama has been fixing games in a conspiracy with the mafia, so they get the death penalty too right?

    Cap– NY Times, FOX & ESPN certainly do print rumors. I could give you about 10,000 examples. Let’s agree to disagree, and see what happens.

    I don’t have the intense passion on this that either of you do, so your animosity is misplaced.

  19. 25
    almightytmc1

    Wow.
    Five witnesses. That is a pretty good amount of corroboration.
    Plus you have the FBI and MBI involved. Why? Because this thing started way deeper than just Cam.
    Aub fans dont be gullible. You have SEVERAL boosters and BOT members being investigated right now by the FBI, NCAA and the IRS.
    How do you explain that one? (Oh.. I know…Cue the standard Where is your prrof? And then you vanish like a fart in a hurricane.)

    More questions…..
    So old Cecil is out shopping Cam to MSU, UT and Oklahoma for 200 grand, and he just freely give his son’s services to Auburn? Doesnt that set off a few bells and whistles?

    Uncle Milty is going down. He is a prominent Auburn booster. Do you think there were wiretaps involved and just what information was passed? Remember, Cell phones can be wiretapped now too.

    Does anyone out there really believe that Bobbeh, Jimmeh and Pat are going to walk scot-free for Colonial bank?

    What are the odds that Cecil or Cam will take a plea bargain after the end of this season.
    (hint, SOMEBODY has to pay tax on $200,000.)
    Auburn fans are you so blissfully ignorant that you would believe that after one year Cam Newton is an Auburn Man for life and will keep your secrets?
    No. Cam Newton is an opportunist who will bend the rules to suit his needs.

    Auburn fans. Phillip Marshall and freinds have you in a never ending cycle of misinformation.
    Look around the net. Take a good long look. And then maybe you will see the rest of the country’s perception. And the possible trouble that is heading for Auburn’s doorstep.
    If I were an Auburn fan I would be furious right now wondering who the fuck went to sleep at the wheel and let all of this happen.
    But then again, that is exactly why I am not an Auburn fan. I (actually) am capable of thinking outside of the collective.

  20. 28
    crimson hammah

    2 WEEKS BEFORE CAM SIGNS AU WAS NOT IN HIS TOP TEN – L M A O

    HOW STUPID R U
    HOW GULLIBLE R U
    HOW CAN U LIE THAT
    HOW CAN U DENY LIKE THAT

  21. 30
    Scott

    Capstone-
    Get your football probation records straight-not that I expect you concern yourself with facts.
    SMU -8
    Auburn 5
    Alabama 4

    All easily accesible from NCAA database.
    Furthermore 3 of 4 of yours have occurred since Auburn’s last probation in 93. This to go along with the rest of your sports. Yeah – Auburn’s compliance has made a real habit of breaking the rules. We cleaned up our program. What about yours?

  22. 31
    capstonereport

    Scott you are such a sophist. Auburn the school has been on MAJOR probation 7 times.

    According to the NCAA database, here is the list for you:

    Apr 27, 2004 Auburn University Violatons of recruiting legislation in the men’s basketball program.

    Aug 18, 1993 Auburn University EXTRA BENEFITS: athletics representatives provided at least $4,000 in cash and merchandise; assistant coach provided $500; administrative assistant provided several thousand dollars in cash payments; athletics representative approved a $9,200 and several other unsecured loans based upon future earnings as professional athletes; student-athletes allowed to enroll with oustanding accounts with the university. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.

    Nov 18, 1991 Auburn University BASKETBALL — IMPERMISSIBLE RECRUITING: offer to assist in obtain automobile loan; improper and excessive recruiting contacts; contacts by athletics representatives; meals for high-school coach; gift and offer of employment to family members. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. EXCEEDING COACHING LIMITATIONS. TENNIS — EXTRA BENEFITS: transportation, lodging and meals to family members; cash loans; use of automobile. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.

    Nov 13, 1980 Auburn University Improper recruiting contacts, entertainment, inducements, lodging and transportation.

    May 11, 1979 Auburn University Extra benefits; improper recruiting contacts, entertainment, inducements, lodging, publicity and transportation; excessive number of official visits; tryouts; questionable practice; certification of compliance.

    Apr 21, 1958 Auburn University Improper recruiting inducements.

    Jan 11, 1957 Auburn University Improper recruiting inducements.

    I know you are a sophist since you are only using the FOOTBALL violations, but the entire list shows your school as a corrupt organization with total disregard for the rules.

  23. 33
    BamaHate

    Sour grapes Cappy?
    Sorry your dynasty team got beat, GG. Get over it. We had the best team. The only person who has received benefits this year proven is
    Marcel Dareus and AJ Green.

  24. 34
    capstonereport

    BamaHate, it isn’t sour grapes. I’ve made sure people heard about this story for weeks. I also pointed out in February the fact that Arkansas was turning Auburn in for funny business in recruiting involving other issues. This isn’t sour grapes. It is a big story. Perhaps the biggest story in our life involving college football.

    Now, I like that you mentioned Marcel Dareus and AJ Green.

    Do you know the difference between Auburn and these two schools? UGA and Alabama followed NCAA rules and declared the players ineligible. Auburn should have done the same this summer with Cam Newton.

    Now, why didn’t Auburn declare Newton ineligible? Even if you deny there was a pay-for-play scheme involving Miss State, the involvement of Rogers who is an Agent/Runner should have had AU declare Newton ineligible. Then Newton could have been reinstated through the usual NCAA process.

    The fact Auburn ignored this or failed to adequately investigate it raises questions about a failure to monitor or lack of institutional control.

    What should worry Auburn fans is not the core issues involved, but Auburn’s response to it. We know one thing about the NCAA; the NCAA hates arrogance. Alabama was once arrogant and got hammered over something minor (1993). USC was once arrogant and got hammered without mercy in 2010.

  25. 36
    crimson hammah

    I TOLD U EVERYTHING
    BELIEVE IN THE FIX
    AU AND POINTS = BINGO
    LSU AND POINTS FIRST HALF – BINGO
    ARK MINUS POINTS GAME – BINGO
    LSU ARK GAME – THE UNDER – BINGO
    NOTRE DAME AND POINTS – LOOKING GOOD
    ARIZ AND POINTS FIRST HALF – BINGO
    OREG MINUS POINTS SECOND HALF – BINGO
    NEVADA AND POINTS FIRST HALF – MISS
    NEVADA AND POINTS GAME – BINGO

  26. 37
    Jason4Bama

    I read a older Fortune Magazine article about Colonial Bank. When the Feds take over a bank they don’t call up the president and say “have the keys ready for us tomorrow afternoon”. They raid the bank with guns and badges and takeover. If they have RICO knowledge such as false information on a TARP application, they can get wire taps started even before they raid the bank. No banker ever plans to have their bank spiral out of control. By the time the Feds arrive all of the sins have been committed. Everything gets discovered, everybody sues everybody, and sometimes people go to jail. I don’t know about money in brown paper bags, green handshakes, and rigged slot machines, but anything done wrong at a bank will eventually be discovered.

  27. 38
    crimson hammah

    ALREADY DISCOVERED …FBI PILING ON,DOTTING I’S CROSSING T’S …AU IS DEAD MEN WALKING …AU WISHING FOR BETTER RESULTS THAN A SOCAL HAMMER IS LIKE WISHING FOR A BETTER OUTCOME IN THE 09 IRON BOWL

  28. 40
    Jason4Bama

    I agree Hammah…FBI pretty much always has an open and shut case before they even indict….first come indictments and trial about six months later…example all the boys and girls they have taken down in jefferson county and two year college scandal

  29. 41
    Jason4Bama

    and the FBI doesn’t normally talk to the targets of their investigations…MSU isnt the target…seems the people at MSU are part of crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s….All of the no comments are coming from Auburn

  30. 42
    crimson hammah

    JUSTICE – WOULD BE SEC OFFICE PRESSER MONDAY CAM INELIGIBLE AU VACATES WINS – ARK TO SEC CG…SC ARK WINNER TO SUGAR..LSU TO ORANGE ..
    SC ARK LOSER TO CAP ONE ..BAMA TO COTTON.

  31. 43
    Jason4Bama

    NCAA is not totally up to speed….They dont have the power of the FBI….but i do believe if that have anything they can act on they will….NCAA would like to not repeat USC – Bush saga….But who knows what the NCAA can prove at the moment…..But I am willing to bet the FBI will get whoever they are investigating

  32. 44
    crimson hammah

    JA – GREAT COMMENTS – YUP
    FBI 101 – GETTING WITNESSES AGAINST NEWTON SO THEY OWN CECIL NEWTON – THEN THEY GO TO CECIL NEWTON AND CAM NEWTON AND SAY GIVE US AU COACHES AND BOOSTERS – DYE LOWDER ETC OR U GO TO JAIL ON TAX EVASION ETC.

  33. 45
    crimson hammah

    YUP AND EMMERT RUNNING THE NCAA IS A WAY MORE EFFICIENT NCAA….EMMERT BASICALLY SAID THE OTHER DAY TO THE INVESTIGATORS GET TO THE TRUTH NAIL AU PROVE IT DOT THE I’S CROSS THE T’S AND DO IT QUICKLY.

  34. 46
    crimson hammah

    RANDY SHANNON OUT AT MIAMI – SHANNON TRYING TO RUN CLEAN PROGRAM – I PREDICT MIAMI GOES BACK TO BEING SKANKY AND FILL THE VOID AU WILL LEAVE

  35. 47
    Jason4Bama

    Something changed the week of the Georgia game….they went from denying everything at Auburn to no comment….The Friday night before the game Newtons lawyer broke the silence and shifted to yes there was talk of money but the player didn’t know about it….lied until they were backed into a corner…..So are we suppose to believe they only lied once?

  36. 50
    crimson hammah

    OH YES TUBBY TRIED TO GO REASONABLY CLEAN AND THAT IS WHY THEY HATED HIM AND HAD HIM FIRED …BUT TUBBY WAS A LITTLE DIRTY …AND KNOWS EVERYTHING AND WAS PAID HUSH MONEY…BUT HUSH MONEY DOES NOT SHUT U UP WHEN THE FBI IS QUESTIONING U

  37. 51
    Jason4Bama

    Yeah Hammah dangerous to lie to the FBI….Me or you could lie to the NCAA or tell them to go fly a kite….But Tubberville would have to be honest with the NCAA he is an active coach….He may not have any current or direct evidence in this situation but I bet he could draw the NCAA a map if he was so inclined

  38. 53
    Jason4Bama

    There was no harm in letting him play against Georgia and Bama….just a couple of more regular season games….NCAA may not even care about SEC championship but they will have over a month to operate and investigate before a national championship game….the next few weeks should be interesting

  39. 55
    crimson hammah

    SOONERS NAIL IN COFFIN ON OK STATE.
    NEBRASKA OKLAHOMA BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP LOSER TO COTTON BOWL VS SEC – BAMA OR ARK OR LSU

  40. 56
    crimson hammah

    OK STATE BUST OUT THE COFFIN
    OKST RUNS BACK KICK OFF FOR TD
    OKST DOWN BY 2 WITH 2:51 REMAINING TO
    KICK OR ONSIDES TO OK

  41. 57
    crimson hammah

    AGREED – PLAYING CAM DID NOT MATTER EVERY STARTER ON AU’S TEAM IS INELIGIBLE – PAID WITH UNMARKED ATM CARDS AND RIGGED BINGO MACHINES….BARN WILL GET THE MAX OF THE MAX MINUS DEATH PENALTY MINUS SEC EXPULSION I AM PRETTY SURE UA AND UA POLITICIANS HAVE SAVED THEM FOR THE GOOD OF THE STATE

  42. 59
    28-27

    Auburn has nothing to hide and has done nothing wrong by playing Cam. Why would they sit somebody based on rumor and here say? That would be like saying last year that Alabama should have benched Mark Ingram because his dad was in prison; therefore, Mark Ingram must have done something wrong. I want to beat Alabama every year but I don’t wish probation on them. It diminishes the rivalry. I’d be willing to put money on Auburn having done nothing wrong in this situation. They shouldn’t sit a quarterback just because people who have nothing to do with the program or the young man think he’s a “bad dude”. WDE

  43. 60
    Saban Sucks

    There are fewer sources for the allegations against Cam than there are that Saban cheated with medical hardships.

    And the New York Times? Seriously. The sociology story that Bammers still love to tease us about turned out to be nothing and Thayer actually had to apologize for it.

  44. 61
    Saban Sucks

    It is sooo fun to watch the Bammer melt down. Thanks for being complete “barking at the moon” nuts, most of you. I have passed this url on to several of my Auburn friends so we can read it and laugh at you. We also enjoy the fact Saban has a losing record versus Auburn. Maybe he should get a statue?

  45. 62
    capstonereport

    Obviously, you don’t know the difference between reliable evidence—the information submitted by Miss State in January and in June/July to the SEC Office. It isn’t hearsay when COACHES tell you that they were approached by an AGENT working for Cam’s family and that Cecil Newton requested money. We know this info was provided because the information is now in the public record. Auburn had no choice but to declare Newton ineligible when it learned of this, but the school chose to ignore the rules.

    I think the AGENT/RUNNER angle is the biggest problem for Auburn. You don’t need a money trail, and Auburn should have immediately declared him ineligible and asked for reinstatement this summer.

    Why didn’t Auburn do this?

    Was it arrogance?

  46. 64
    JDcahill

    I think you bastards ought to tar and feather ole cheezedick and run his arse out of georgia or where ever the hell auburn is, when are you going to turn your anger on the one’s that brought AU to this point

  47. 66
    JDcahill

    Well man, they talk about this guy like he is Christ almighty himself. Hell! they don’t even know this arsehole. Shit! If I had to defend someone as much as they have to defend this guy. I believe I would be smart enough to wake the f#%k up

  48. 67
    capstonereport

    It is a cult.

    Did you see the image of Cam posted over the body of Christ on the cross that some idiot on the Bunker had as his signature?

    Disgusting.

  49. 68
    dave

    The Bammer meltdown is wonderful to behold. HUMBLED. Humility will do you good. I will say this, the Tigers were lucky to win. Lucky! But guess what? THEY DID!!!!!!!!!!!!! read it and weep

    TWENTY EIGHT – TWENTY SEVEN

  50. 69
    JDcahill

    I’m sorry I missed that. What the hell’s wrong with the inbred barnners. How could anyone be so freaking blind. They need to climb off of their sisters and get a freaking clue

  51. 71
    dave

    What about the Bear walking on the water or this one “On the eight day he created the crimson tide”. Shut up you hypocrites. Bear isn’t God and never will be.

  52. 72
    JDcahill

    I hope they’ve been saving all that paper down their at tumors corner, because their going to need it when it rains sh#t, down all over the plains. We’ll see whats left over in the after math. A family,,, bullsh@t!!!! Rats, deserting a sinking ship.

  53. 73
    Auburnfan1990

    Cap is a MUCH bigger idiot than I thought if he thinks Auburn or Cam has an NCAA issue. Mark my words…the only place anything like that is going to happen is in your dreams.

    And just take it like a man when you get that word.

    As to the game suck it up. We spotted you 24 and had 2 of our best guys on the bench the first half. We own jordan hare west!!

  54. 74
    capstonereport

    Bear isn’t God?

    WTF?

    Really?

    I guess next you’ll tell me the Easter Bunny doesn’t exist or that Santa is a fake!!!

    I guess you’ll tell me Caesar wasn’t a god either, or that Jove is just a stone.

  55. 75
    dave

    Well, that is all the money that I am going to make for Ole Shane from Centerpoint. By the way, he is right up there with Charles, Tammy, Legend, and the rest of those nuts. He just can’t see it. He is a legend in his own mind.

  56. 76
    capstonereport

    AUFan1990, When the national media tells you there is a problem and the local media rubes tell you there isn’t a problem, you better listen to the national guys.

    I’m just warning you.

    I’m a voice crying out in the wilderness.

  57. 79
    dave

    Now you are claiming to be John the Baptist. You bunch of hypocrites can’t take your spanking like McCarron did his. You criticize some fool for inscribing Cam over a crucifix? You rednecks have been attributing biblical things to bammer football and coaches for years.

  58. 81
    capstonereport

    Johnny Po, you say that like it is a bad thing.

    Nancy Grace is like on TV and stuff. 😉

    And for Christ’s sake Dave, you are a fool if you think a voice in the wilderness hasn’t been used by about a million people without any sacrilege. Winston Churchill’s life was memorialized in a Wilderness Years bio. There is a big difference between saying you are a lone voice warning of danger and putting that guy’s head on the crucified body of Christ.

    But I guess such distinctions are lost on you. Oh well.

  59. 83
    JDcahill

    Well. I’m no so called expert on religion or anything of that nature but. My ole pappy used to tell me, that the Lord blesses the one’s he loves, and it would seem to me that he must’ve loved the Bear more than most….

  60. 84
    dave

    Well, goodnight to all bammer rednecks. And remember, there is always next year. But until then……..Dave has left the building.

  61. 85
    JDcahill

    Now I wonder why ole Dave is hanging out on a bammer board, seeing how he probably has the smallest pecker on the site, good night Dave tell ur sister we all said ,hey

  62. 86
    jordan hare west

    Sure does sound the moron shane, you want to talk about class u moron, I have seen the picture with saban walking on water more times than i can count, you got that azz whooped saturday, go back to your hole.

  63. 88
    fast or is he furious?

    And little NICKY is fixin to run to dallas, when 8-9 million a year comes your way, he will leave your ass high and dry and that my friends is gonna be a fun meltdown, if you think for one second you can win more than 8 games with trent richardson and AJ as your leaders, maze has said today he isnt coming back, JJ and MI are gone, goodluck hahahahaha

  64. 89
    28-27

    Simply word of mouth from coaches isn’t indisputable evidence. The NCAA is doing it’s due diligence and until then Auburn is doing nothing wrong by playing Cam. There’s no proof yet. No money trail, no phone records, no text messages…just allegations that all of these exist. If they turn up, then you’re right, Cam should be ruled ineligible and Auburn should play without him, but Auburn can’t operate under the assumption that he is guilty without any hard evidence. That would be irresponsible and unconstitutional.

  65. 90
    JDcahill

    I’m telling you those auburnites, have to be a bunch of inbreds, have you ever in your entire life, seen a bunch just ate up with stupidity

  66. 92
    28-27

    How is being patient and reserving judgement stupid or inbred? I just said that if he is found guilty we will comply with the NCAA and move forward and you’ll be right, but that’s for the NCAA to decide, not public opinion.

  67. 95
    capstonereport

    There isn’t a presumption of innocence when it comes to eligibility. When the first allegation was reported to the SEC then Cam should have been declared ineligible based on the contact with an Agent/Runner.

    Auburn ignored that this summer and invites a Lack of Institutional Control charge or a Failure to Monitor charge over this issue.

    That isn’t good.

    BTW, you don’t need tapes or text messages. You have FIVE witnesses that corroborate the pay-for-play scheme and the Agent/Runner connection. One of the five is a co-conspirator and the agent/runner. People go to jail with less evidence.

  68. 96
    28-27

    Right but that’s for the NCAA to decide. If they say not to play Cam then they won’t play Cam. It’s not anybody’s job other than the NCAA to police the sport. If the NCAA told Auburn not to play Cam and they still did, then they are in the wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what happened.

  69. 98
    28-27

    How does Auburn not get it? What is there to get? Self policing is a gray area of the rules. It doesn’t assure leniency while at the same time admitting guilt. It’s not in Auburn’s best interest to do that. If this turns out to be true and the NCAA makes Auburn vacate the win against Alabama then I’ll come shake your hand and admit that Auburn did not win according to the rules and I’ll congratulate you on having the stronger program, but if Auburn is found innocent of any wrongdoing then I expect an admission that Auburn had the superior team.

  70. 99
    capstonereport

    That isn’t for the NCAA to decide.

    The institution is REQUIRED by the NCAA to declare a student-athlete ineligible. The NCAA then can reinstate the player. (see North Carolina, UGA and Alabama.)

    The NCAA is looking into the eligibility of Newton at this moment. It has put a priority on the case. However, I don’t think fans should find any comfort in that fact.

    If the NCAA finds he was ineligible then Auburn has made it worse by not acting in the summer, or when the reports first broke about the scandal. That is why I warned about the arrogance issue. That got Alabama hammered; arrogance got USC hammered. I think arrogance is going to get Tennessee hammered too.

  71. 100
    JDcahill

    Hey Dude You still don’t get it, keep the freaking win we don’t want it. The Tide doesn’t need the NCAA to give us a damn win, we have plenty of them, keep it… RTR

  72. 101
    capstonereport

    And to be honest 28-27, I really WANT to talk about Auburn’s #22’s awesome play in the game, or Roof’s success with the defense in the second half. I’ve said Roof is a better assistant coach than Malzahn and I think he might be getting to the point that people appreciate him.

  73. 102
    28-27

    Maybe it will, but you have to look at the situation from a litigious point of view. What is in the best interest of the University and the football program? Assume innocence. It’s a risk/reward analysis. By admitting guilt the university faces automatic sanctions, and is looking at an 8-5 season, but by maintaining innocence the university either faces no sanctions and a possible national championship or a vacated season but still takes in revenue that was generated under the assumption that the team was fighting for a national title. Plus even if something might be true (which there is no guarantee it is) the burden of proof still lies with the NCAA and that’s a tough case to establish.

  74. 103
    JDcahill

    Man you’ll never understand, it’s not about the loss. Because I would be talking like this anyway, thats why I’m on the CAPSTONE REPORT and not the cowpatty board, I JUST DON’T LIKE YOUR ASS,,,,

  75. 105
    28-27

    And this situation is much different than Marcel Dareus’s. The University knew that by acting quickly they were at worst going to lose Dareus for 3-4 games. Not the entire season. Had Dareus faced ineligibility for the entire season with as little proof as was available against Dareus then the University probably would have waited for an NCAA ruling, but by sitting him he just missed San Jose State and Penn State games…not any pivotal SEC action. In that case self policing is an advantage, but not when you’re in the hardest part of your schedule. you don’t see any universities self policing during rivalry week or championship week…it’s just not a smart or prudent move.

  76. 109
    guy388

    BAMA got bitch-slapped! Now they’re on this blog in continued stunned disbelief, licking their wounds!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. 110
    guy388

    NOW SIT YOUR AZZES DOWN, SHUT THE HELL UP AND WATCH REAL MEN PLAY THE GAME! BAMA MELT-DOWN! I LOOOOOOOOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. 111
    Jason4Bama

    I am amazed that Auburn fans keep ignoring the FBI aspect of this thing.

    1. The FBI has been investigating your biggest booster for some time now in regards to his bank. Plenty of wiretaps and bank records.

    2. The Feds have indicted another large booster. Plenty of wiretaps in that situation as well.

    3. The FBI has talked to people involved in the MSU situation. One of them let it slip that some of the questions that were asked were about an Auburn booster.

    4. The FBI was very deep into an investigation before the NCAA even was contacted.

    5. All kinds of corrupt business people and corrupt politicians have been being investigated in the State of Alabama this past year. Lots of people have been recorded.

    So why do Auburn fans dismiss that one or more of their boosters may have been recorded? Why would the FBI talk to the MSU people? Why has Dye and everybody at Auburn shifted to “no comment”.

    We live in an instantanious society. When the hammer didn’t drop before the Georgia game, Auburn fans said “yeah we are in the clear”. This thing is far from over.

    I don’t doubt capstone is right that the NCAA can go with institional control in the short run. There may have been even greater instances of cheating in college sports over the years. But this is the perfect storm. Cheating plus FBI being locked on prominent boosters. I don’t know what will happene in the short run with the NCAA. However, I am willing to bet this will be the largest scandal in college sports that has ever happened once the FBI and Federal prosecutors are finished.

  79. 112
    Jason4Bama

    What was the line in “Wall Street”?

    Bulls make money. Bears make money. But pigs get slaughtered.

    Sometimes people just go to far. Saban may go to Dallas but wouldn’t yall have been better off to wait on that than cut your own throats in the meantime?

  80. 114
    guy388

    Hell, “I” woulda paid $180,000 to see that shocked, stunned, bitch-slapped look on those bamma fans’ faces yesterday! Worth EVERY penny!! Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahah hahahaha hahahahahahaha!!!!

  81. 115
    DAMAGE INC.

    Sure — worth every penny to have that win took away — you can yuk it up right now … sure, I WOULD if I were an Aubarn fan — but in the end… $180K is worth “every penny” to the Crimson faithful. 🙂

  82. 116
    guy388

    BITCH-SLAPPED Definition: (1) A packed stadium of 101,821 rabid fans – the venue’s highest decibel ever recorded; (2)”Son of a Preacher Man” and “Take the Money and Run” blasting from the speakers; (3) Monopoly money raining down everywhere; (4) crudely-crafted, misspelled signs (it takes a special breed to misspell 3- and 4-letter words); (5)a 24-0 lead with around 5 minutes to go in the half; (6) then real men decided to school the boys; (7) 3 points v. 3 touchdowns later, EVERYONE got the lesson – as was evident on the stunned faces of those 101,821 silent, mouth-agape bammer fans! GAME OVER!!

  83. 119
    crimson hammah

    bama game was fixed as all games are

    when au gets hammered by ncaa what will be ur
    for not seeing it coming? u were lying.too busy enjoying ur goats.syphllis on brain.born stupid.caught stupid from au fans.a flamer that doesn’t follow football.

  84. 121
    BeSerious

    Cappy, I know you’re hanging all your hopes on the NCAA hitting Auburn with sanctions, etc. But the fact is that Auburn is NOT being investigated by the NCAA. And all the crap you regurgitated from Evans and ESPN, etc., is all stuff that Auburn and the NCAA knew MONTHS ago, well before anyone knew what kind of player Newton would be. The FBI is after Rogers, and MSU is in this up to their necks. Sorry to burst your little bubble, but the “allegations” from people trying to save their own necks in this situation (read: Kenny Rogers), aren’t worth a hill of beans.

  85. 122
    almightytmc1

    You heard that Cap.
    “Auburn is not being investigated”
    I mean forget what the rest of the English speaking world is saying. Forget ESPN the NCAA and FBI and all of the unbiased news sources are saying. Okay? Just forget it.
    BeSerious says “Auburn is not being investigated.”
    I suppose that you are just making all of this up on your blog. right Cap?
    You and literally dozens of others. New York Times Schmew York Times, eh?
    Remember, Auburn is the loviliest village on the plains and the own the exclusive rights to the word “family”. or you might incurr the wrath of Al.com.

  86. 123
    crimson hammah

    u stupid ignorant slut pedophile the ncaa told mullen they believe the miss state coaches and the ncaa has said this will not end well for au

  87. 124
    dave

    Still licking the wounds and trying to cling to “auburn investigations”. Your team is on probation as we speak. Pot meet kettle. Bwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! I love it. 28-27 still sounds suhweeeet.

    1. 5-19 Iowa State Coach (former)
    2. High school offense.
    3. High school OC. (you hope he leaves)
    4. 101,000 crimson rednecks.
    5. Monopoly money, fake cam money.
    6. The Almighty Saban.
    7. Classless music deriding a kid.
    8. Defending national champs.
    9. Home field.
    10. Broken hearts.
    11. Pure embarrassment.
    12. Largest audience to watch a football game this year.
    13. National audience sees the meltdown.
    14. Arch rival tears your heart out and shows it to you.
    15. Auburn fans do rammer jammer in you own stadium after the Tigers spotted you 24 points.
    16. Three star players on the bench licking their wounds.

    PRICELESS!!!!!

    Best of all…..28-27 defeat.

    You snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Bwaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

  88. 125
    crimson hammah

    only the mind of a pedophile can deny the hammer is coming

    13 0 national championships
    26 5 conference titles
    22 5 sec championships
    2nd vs 6th in sec ch game appearances
    skankiest program of title game

    2010 ib – freak of a fixed game

  89. 126
    dave

    There is always “last year”. This is the sweetest ever. The bammer meltdown is fun to watch. Can’t wait for Fartbomb tomorrow. I hope Tammy and Charles calls in and of course……Shaaaaaaaaaaane from Centerpoint, the wannabe journalist. Bwaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

  90. 128
    almightytmc1

    Dave.
    The Iron Bowl has came and left. The #2 team in the country beat the #9 team in the country in a ONE POINT BLOWOUT. OOOOOhhhhh….Big fat hairy deal.
    That is done and dusted mate.
    But right now the issue is:
    Bobbeh jimmeh, Pat, and Milty (and a few more,) have to account for $25 billion dollars that investors might be wanting back.
    Auburn Boosters are being investigated for trying to fix elections. (That’s called racketeering Dave, look it up.)

    Auburn Boosters and BOT are being investigated for defrauding the Government in the TARPA deal.(Thats called fraud Dave.)
    Auburn boosters and BOT are being investigated for all kinds of nasty little sh*t.

    Auburn boosters are being investigated in a possible pay4play scandal. And to be honest there. If rigging an election is on your agenda, do you honestly think that paying a player wouldn’t be?
    Do you realize how close you guys are to lack of institutional control? Or do you think a bunch of felons would have run a clean shop when it came to the athletics department in Auburn?
    Dave, don’t be a schmuck.
    Enjoy your little victory. 6 more and hey you will catch up to Bama’s lead in the series. Yaaaayyyyy!
    But Dave, dont be such an obtuse little man.
    If you cant see the freight train that is coming Auburn U’s way you are either a gullible fool or a delusional idiot.
    Wise up there man.

  91. 129
    crimson hammah

    obama hitler jack the ripper ted bundy scott peterson btk killer green river killer reggie bush oj simpson all prospered for a while but eventually the long arm of justice nailed them just like they will au again

  92. 130
    ctbeezy

    Y’all got to understand the reason NY Times is reporting this is bc it is helping them sale papers in West Alabama (Crimson Tide Country). The NY Times owns and runs the Tuscaloosa News…..C it For Yourself under The New York Times Company website!

  93. 131
    northernbamaoutpost

    At the end of the day, it’s not just the score board. I’ll hope Auburn wins out —
    it’s a remarkable achievement for a state of 4M people to produce back to back national champions. The point is, what Auburn nation really craves is relevance in the state, and that is going to be available only briefly. The
    NCAA can take its time. The longer this is out there, the worse it is for
    you. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. The issue isn’t between the
    preacher and whomever paid him; it became an institutional issue once you
    kept playing the kid. Enjoy this brief window of relevance. It’s gonna
    close hard.

  94. 132
    guy388

    Investigation..conspiracy theory…vacated wins.. You bammers sound so pathetic. Wait, almost as PATHETIC as your meltdown on Friday as you got your AZZES HANDED TO YA! Haha hahahaha hahahaha haha haha haha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahah hahaaaaaaaa!!!!

  95. 133
    crimson hammah

    LMAO THE DEAD MEN WALKING – CONDEMNED PRISONERS JUST ATE THIER LAST MEAL AND IF U CAN’T SEE THAT – HIDE ALL THE KIDS – U HAVE THE REPROBATE MIND OF A PEDOPHILE = U R SICK DUDE

  96. 135
    crimson hammah

    LSU’S JIMMY OTT SPORTSTALK – CAM GUILTY IT IS THE RIVALRY, BAMA’S SUCCESS EATS THEM UP.

    LSU’S TIGERBAIT.COM – BAMA 1 AU 2 – EVERYBODY KNOWS FOR AU TO DO ANYTHING AGAINST BAMA THEY HAVE THE CHEauT

  97. 137
    dave

    Oh yeah, the Tigers made their arses quit. Three of their great ones sitting on the bench licking their wounds, the crowd just hoping the backup can score and boom, the defense that has been called “swiss cheese” by these turds, SHUTS THEM DOWN”. Priceless!!! IT is as good today after three days, as it was Friday. Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah.

    Oh by the way, I heard that “come back Shane” didn’t call Fartbomb today because of self-inflicted injury. Did he try to kill himself after that monumental camback. Sorry COMEBACK.

  98. 138
    crimson hammah

    FIX WAS IN NO BIGGIE – DEAD MAN WALKING’S LAST MEAL

    IRON BOWL 10 – EXPECTED TO BE HIGHEST RATED GAME OF REGULAR SEASON

  99. 139
    dave

    I love it. It is a wonder that ole “come back Shane” doesn’t ban us from this little blog. WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!

    I love it. 365 more days of it.

  100. 140
    dave

    Iron Bowl 2010 was largest audience for a game this year. Biggest crowd of to see the bammer meltdown. Classic, Priceless. But don’t worry boys, you have the “cam” investigation to cling to. Bwaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

    28-27 ONE POINT WAS ENOUGH!

  101. 148
    crimson hammah

    AU PUTS AU TO SHAME – POOR EFFORT

    IF AU IS WINNING AU IS CHEATING – CHECK AGAIN

    LMAO

    BAMA 1 AU 2 EVERYBODY KNOWS FOR AU TO DO ANYTHING VS BAMA THEY HAVE TO CHEAUT…LSU TIGERBAIT

  102. 149
    crimson hammah

    ZERO NATIONAL TITLES AND A MIRACLES TO GET TO 1* 13 13 13 13 13

    CAM IS GUILTY IT IS THE RIVALRY THE BAMA SUCCESS EATS THEM UP ….THE SCORE LSU JIMMY OTT

  103. 151
    crimson hammah

    RAPISTS MURDERERS ADULTERERS CORRUPT PEDOPHILES – THE AU FANBASE ENABLE THE DYE’S AND LOWDER’S OF THE WORLD TO FLOURISH

  104. 152
    JASON4BAMA

    Aubbies may not realize the barn is on fire but it was obvious on Finebaum today that Dye knows the barn is on fire. He just kept yacking about the 3ft children. He was trying to eat up clock so Finebaum wouldn’t ask any questions that would violate the GAG order.

  105. 153
    crimson hammah

    GREAT PERNTS JASON… THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SCHEME – RIDE THE CHEAUTIN HORSE TIL BUSTED…DON’T THINK THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET BUSTED SO SOON…WITH ONLY A VACATED WEST TITLE AND ONE CROOTIN SVC PUTTING AU AHEAD OF BAMA…

    THE MISS ST ASST COACH THAT BLEW WHISTLE IN JULY AND FOLLOWED UP ON THE AU SCHEME IS WHISTLEBLOWER AND CRIMEFIGHTER OF YR BRINGING DOWN 60 YRS OF ORGANIZED CRIME AT AU

  106. 156
    crimson hammah

    LMAO – U NEVER KNOW WHAT A 71 YR OLD DRUNK IS GOING TO SPILL

    CAM HUNG BY THE TONGUE NEWTON –
    TOO MUCH MONEY

  107. 159
    JASON4BAMA

    you think daddy newton will keep it down home or spill all?….if had to choose between income tax evasion conviction and federal prison i would throw all of my aububn cousins under the bus

  108. 160
    crimson hammah

    EVERY STARTER AT A MINIMUM IS INELIGIBLE ON AU’S TEAM – BOUGHT WITH UNMARKED ATM CARDS AND RIGGED BINGO MACHINES

  109. 161
    crimson hammah

    PER FINEBAUM – CHIZ ACTING LIKE A DEAD MAN WALKING BECAUSE HE IS A DEAD MAN WALKING … HE WAS PICKED B/C HE FIT THE LAP DOG PUPPET COACH TO A T AND HAS FULFILLED IT PERFECTLY NOW HE KNOWS HE IS OUT AT AU AND A LEPER IN THE NCAA AS IS MIKE DUBOSE

  110. 163
    JASON4BAMA

    Are you sure hammah?…I got a big laugh today when I saw an Aubie post that the FBI was involved because of Rogers….they said only MSU was in trouble

    Hammah this is what i pondered aloud…..if MSU is in trouble why do they have a GAG order in Auburn…. why was Dye stalling for time and waxing poetic about 3 ft children on finebaum today?

  111. 166
    JASON4BAMA

    and i keep saying 3ft children….i think Dye actually said 3ft chillen….you know they have a different vocabulary in Lower Alabama

  112. 167
    crimson hammah

    I AM ABSOLUTELY CORRECT – MISS STATE BLEW THE WHISTLE IN MEDIA AND MAYBE DID NOT EXACTLY FOLLOW SEC PROTOCOL IN THAT BUT THAT DOES NOT MATTER TO NCAA….MS AND MULLEN BEFORE THAT HAS SAID ON A RIVALS RADIO INTERVIEW THAT THE “PEOPLE WHO HAD A STORY TO TELL THE NCAA TOLD THEIR STORY TO THE NCAA AND THE NCAA BELIEVES THEM AND “””EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED (CECIL NEWTON EXTORTED MS STATE ASSTS/RECRUITERS FACE TO FACE IN A STARKVILLE HOTEL ROOM..,” SAME STORY I HAVE BEEN SAYING SINCE JULY

  113. 168
    crimson hammah

    I SAID MS ASSTS THREW NEWTON’S DIRTY AZZ OUT OF THEIR COACHES OFFICES – I WAS WRONG THEY THREW HIS DIRTY AZZ OUT OF MEETING ROOMS AT A STARKVILLE HOTEL

  114. 169
    JASON4BAMA

    I was kidding hammah….trying to show you the Aubbies love conspiracy theories as long as its MSU and not AU….lol

  115. 170
    crimson hammah

    AND I SAID A MS ASST SAID NEWTON THEN EXTORTED LANE KIFFEN …THIS HAS NOT COME OUT EITHER WAY,,, BUT REPORTS DO SAY AU MS TN OK BOOSTERS DID PUT IN OFFERS ON CAM

  116. 174
    crimson hammah

    CHIZ NEEDS TO GROW SOME BALLS AND SHAKE DOWN AU BOOSTERS FOR BIG MONEY NOT TO JUMP SHIP IMMEDIATELY AS WELL

  117. 180
    JASON4BAMA

    I think the NCAA has a mess on their hands. They are normally slow and deliberate. They wanted Bama to win and make it a moot point. Now I guess they may hang their hopes on SC. Bush and USC left so much egg on their faces. I think the NCAA is itchy. I think they paid a visit to AU in an attempt to get them to sit CAM but it failed. Basically AU told them where to go. Now we are in the “no comment GAG order” era. It’s a pissing contest between the NCAA and AU now.

  118. 183
    JDcahill

    Holy shit. I wish they would get off their asses and do something. I’m tired of these f@#kers being in everyones face,

  119. 184
    JASON4BAMA

    I would actually have some respect for AU fans that were scared. Most of the ones I know are in denial or delusional. Sad part is that its not the AU fans fault. It is the fault of an elite club. The alter ego of AU. The “REAL AU FAMILY”. They have hijacked the whole university. I am guessing Grisham will write a book similiar to this story. Truth ends up being stranger than fiction sometimes.

  120. 187
    crimson hammah

    MOST REAL AU FANS I KNOW ARE HEARTBROKEN AND KNOW THEY R TOAST ….I DISAGREE AU JOE FAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DYE AND LOWDER REMAINING IN CONTROL OF AU …IF DUBOSE WOULD TAKE CONTROL OF BAMA – JOE BAMA FAN WOULD RAISE HELL AND IT WOULD BE STOPPED IMMEDIATEDLY ….JOE AU FAN ENABLED THIS IMHO

  121. 188
    JDcahill

    Thst total fucki bullshi, To let these motherfuc. Fuck it up for the next team that could be playing for the big game. A once in their life oppourtunity. Fuc#ing chickens**t NCAA.

  122. 189
    JASON4BAMA

    JD… I hear you…But a few people with the money pull the strings…..Read that article that Terri Bowden put out after he left….Its AMAZING…..Gives you some insight into how this whole state is ran….No wonder the FBI is crawling all over the place

  123. 192
    JASON4BAMA

    Your right hammah….we even kicked and screamed and said enough is enough….finally we got Saban….we learned our lesson after Dubose….AU ran off two coaches with great records because they wouldn’t kiss the ring….and Dye and company take over again and nobody stopped it

  124. 193
    crimson hammah

    I MIGHT BE NAIVE BUT I WOULD HOPE IF BAMA EVER DID ANYTHING OPENLY SLEAZY – JOE BAMA FANS WOULD STAND UP IN AN UPROAR – FAX CALL – NOT SHOW UP FOR SPRING GAME NOT SHOW UP FOR GAMES WHATEVER IT TOOK TO PUT ANY SKANKY MOVE TO A HALT

  125. 195
    JASON4BAMA

    hey hammah are u saying we aren’t gonna drink the kool aide?….lol….maybe they brainwash the alumni at the village

  126. 196
    JDcahill

    I can’t believe they would let these cheaten motherf**kers play for an sec championship and win the g**d*mn heisman trophy and go to f**kin NC when they know they have been cheating and have been totally out of controll, what a bunch of pu**y mo*her f**kin little chickensh**s they are.

  127. 199
    JASON4BAMA

    Its the nature of the NCAA to move slow….they dissapoint me too….FBI may give them some crumbs and speed it up….the SEC is the one that makes me mad….i think they tried to sweep it under the rug….if this thing had gotten legs sooner it may have turned out different

  128. 200
    crimson hammah

    DOES NOT MAKE SENSE NC PLAYERS WERE SUSPENDED BY NCAA MID SEASON ….NCAA PLENTY OF TIME TO HANDLE AU WITH INITIAL SUSPENSION EVEN IF FINAL HAMMER DOES NOT COME DOWN FOR 2 YRS

  129. 202
    JASON4BAMA

    It may play out that way still hammah….there is over a month between sec game and national championship….NCAA boys will be gamecock fans saturday….lol

  130. 203
    crimson hammah

    I THINK NCAA GETS A SCAULDING FROM MEDIA IF CAM HEISMAN IS RETD OR AU SEC NC REVOKED ESP COMING OFF REGGIE BUSH – PRO CAM MEDIA WILL LOOK LIKE FOOLS AND SCAULD NCAA…THE ANTI CAM MEDIA WILL BE I TOLD U AND SCAULD EVERYBODY

  131. 205
    JASON4BAMA

    Don’t cows lay down when a storm is coming?….Doesn’t the Bible say what to watch for at the end of time?….sad to say but u will know its coming when Vegas shuts down betting again like before the Georgia game

  132. 206
    crimson hammah

    YUP – MOST EVERYBODY COCK FANS – SMALL POTATO FANS WANT TCU IN …SOME FANS WOULD UNDERSTANDABLY WANT BEST GAME OREG VS AU WITHOUT KNOWING THE AU SKANKINESS

  133. 207
    crimson hammah

    EXACTLY GREAT PERNTS AGAIN….BUT U KNOW MY ALL GAMES FIXED THEORY – THE MONEY ALL WEEK COMES IN ON COCKS DRIVES THE SPREAD DOWN THEN GAME TIME MONEY ON AU FIXING IT FOR SC – A JUST GOD HAS GOT TO NAIL AU NOW

  134. 208
    JDcahill

    I know that, but its not right. The NCAA lets them run out the entire season and fu*k it up for some other kids that deserve to go. Once more. What would have happened if they hadn’t been cheating and took some losses this season. Some of the kids in the sec, and their seasons might have been a little different. If this team hadn’t been beaten or that team might have won, what the f**k ever. Lots of teams rankings in the polls would have been different. Its all about cause end effect. So because everyone’s dragging their goddamn feet. Its has been fucking it up for every team in the whole fucking country. From the very first time they found out something was going on, they should have struck hard. Repeat offenders bla bla bla

  135. 209
    JASON4BAMA

    well the public believes he is superman now….the majority of the betting will go AU….not around here but nationwide…so if your theory is right vegas will be SC fans too

  136. 210
    JASON4BAMA

    that is what really scared me last year was bama being ready for florida after the iron bowl….bama was ready because of revenge factor of having lost the year before….AU may take SC lightly

  137. 211
    crimson hammah

    YUP YUP – I DK HOW THE INFLUENCE OF THE MONEYLINE EFFECTS BETTING – BUT EVEN IF SC AND POINTS IS A LOCK – STILL HAVE TO SWEAT OUT AU WINNING BY LESS THAN POINT SPREAD AND WATCH UNDER OVER – A UNDER CUTS OF POINT SCORING LIKE IN LSU BAMA GAME

  138. 212
    crimson hammah

    BUT I AGREE WITH JD WHOLEHEARTEDLY THIS IS AN INJUSTICE TO THE TEAMS NOW PLAYING BY THE RULES WITH ALL THE EVIDENCE TO NAIL EVERYBODY NOW…

  139. 213
    JASON4BAMA

    i love bama football so dont get me wrong….but i like politics as well….this story is way more than a sports story….between the two year college scandal, bingo scandal, jefferson county commission, scrushy siegelman, etc etc ….they should move FBI headquarters from wherever it is to bham or montgomery….reduce travel expense and make a dent in the deficit….lol

  140. 216
    JASON4BAMA

    some folks think Grisham is brilliant….the truth is Grisham is southern….he just looks around and writes what he sees….I think he is a good business man….I swear he should quit writing about mississippi and move over here for a while

  141. 217
    JDcahill

    Au fans came out screaming after the iron bowl, where I live. It kinda pissed me off. That being a screwed up game and all that. You know. I just thought of something. Granddaddy just put up a great big ole flag poll out front, about a 20 ft Tall. Anyone know where I might get a big ole gamecock flag for it.

  142. 218
    JASON4BAMA

    not sure where to buy a flag….but if SC pulls it off u can where a SC tshirt and hat for the next year…and sure even Saban would approve….lol

  143. 221
    crimson hammah

    SAME HERE POLITICS GRISHAM – RUNAWAY JURY A GRISHAM MOVIE BOOK – NOTHING WRONG WITH
    JURY RIGGING – BUSINESS AND SPORTS ALREADY RIGGED

  144. 222
    28-27

    Thank god the University of Alabama is around in order to provide a model of perfection and infallibility to the rest of the world. If UA wasn’t around I don’t know what America would look to as a source of inspiration and omniscience.

  145. 224
    crimson hammah

    AGREED AU IN THE PICTURE JUST STAINS AND STENCHES UP THE WHOLE NATIONAL PICTURE AND IF NOT FOR AU A GREAT SEASON EVEN IF BAMA IS HAVING AN OFF YR BECAUSE THE WAY THE FIXES HAVE FELL

  146. 225
    JASON4BAMA

    yeah i thought logan young was sleezy looking and was the kind of guy that could give a university a bad image but milton mcgregor belongs to yall…..we overcame logan young….will yall overcome milton mcgregor?

  147. 227
    JASON4BAMA

    right hammah…young is dead and dubose was a high school coach….well maybe their boosters wont take over until they get out of prison….AU fans can petition the federal judges for long sentences

  148. 232
    JASON4BAMA

    was it cheating because he was so good that he had talent on the bench that would rather be on his bench than be on your starting team?….there didnt have scholarship limits back then….playing for auburn was like having to take your cousing to the prom

  149. 235
    28-27

    Nope, I’m just saying Bear did the same thing you’re accusing Auburn of doing. Just a fact. Use it however you want.

  150. 236
    JASON4BAMA

    here is how i will use it….your point is somebody cheated a long time ago and that justifies u cheating now….i dont remember bryant getting caught cheating at bama…..anyway…..folks on this post aren’t condeming yall for being crooks….we are comdeming you being stupid

  151. 237
    28-27

    By posting that link it is in no way an admission of guilt. I don’t know what Auburn has or has not done. I’m not in meetings with boosters. I’m just trying to point out that Alabama fans are condemning Auburn and hinting that there mere suspicion of cheating should be enough to put the team on probation and erase the great accomplishments of this team, but THE eternal symbol of Alabama football is guilty of the same crimes.

  152. 238
    JASON4BAMA

    were u on the OJ jury?….because people that ignore the obvious and look for someone else to blame are the dream of sleezy criminal defense lawyers….mr mcgregor has a jury consultant on the way to your house now

  153. 239
    28-27

    If you look at everything I’ve written I don’t blame anyone, because there is no blame to be placed at this point. I’m not saying Auburn is innocent, but I’m not saying Auburn is guilty either. That’s not for you or me to decide. It’s for the NCAA and FBI to decide because they are the ones with the records and subpoena power respectively. Once they make a decision then I’ll start placing blame.

  154. 242
    crimson hammah

    AU 6TH IN THE LEAGUE IS SEC CH GAME APPEARANCES NOT EXACTLY ANCIENT HISTORY AS IS THEIR EXCUSE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE

  155. 243
    JASON4BAMA

    so is it ok to pay for cam newton?…i get the idea from AU fans its no big deal….what do u think should happen to AU if it “proven” they paid cam?

  156. 244
    28-27

    I’ve never even heard that myth hannah. Personally I don’t care what any coach, including Bear, did in there private lives. It’s none of my business, and I don’t blame him for cheating at A&M either. He did what he had to do to get by. College football is not church, morality is not of utmost importance. So if Bear got won games by cheating and not getting caught, more power to him, it means he was doing his job better than everybody else. But just remember morality and college athletics have never had any real connection, that’s just a myth and it continues to be to this day.

  157. 245
    crimson hammah

    THE CALL ON FAIRLEY WAS NOT FOR JUST CELEBRATING – IT WAS THE EXTENDED HIGH STEPPING = SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS A CELEBRATION NO NO AND ALWAYS CALLED

  158. 246
    28-27

    If Auburn is proven to have paid Cam then I think the University should get a punishment on par with other Universities guilty of the same crime. You shouldn’t be paying players to come to a University. But that does not mean Auburn should be forever prohibited from competing in intercollegiate athletics and it should not have any direct impact on the academic standing of the school or the academic reputation or character of the university as a whole.

  159. 248
    JASON4BAMA

    having lived thru dubose, fran, price, shula and probation….here is what UA can count on…..one good season wont be worth the probation…..yall will learn to cuss the ones that u hold in high regard today

  160. 249
    crimson hammah

    AU BEING A REPEAT OFFENDER WITH THE SAME PARTICIPANTS IS OFF THE CHART EVIL…AND WILL GET THE HARSHEST PENALTIES IN HISTORY

  161. 250
    28-27

    If they are guilty then you’re probably right. But if they aren’t guilty or the NCAA can’t prove it then it will be worth it. The revenue generated from this season will far surpass any other season in history and the boost in student (non athlete) recruiting will be significant. All of those are positives that will not be undone by sanctions. Auburn still gets to keep the revenue generated from this season and more highly qualified students will enroll at Auburn.

  162. 251
    JASON4BAMA

    hammah thats why i said earlier we arent judging them….we just think they are stupid for not learning the first time

  163. 254
    28-27

    Remember, I said it’s worth it if Auburn didn’t cheat or if it’s never proven that they did. Then it’s absolutely worth it.

  164. 255
    crimson hammah

    LIKE 27 28 SAID NOTHING WRONG WITH CHEATING IT GOES TO CHARACTER ….WHEN A JUDGE GIVES A LIGHT SENTENCE TO A PEDOPHILE WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE JUDGE

  165. 257
    JASON4BAMA

    hammah with that last AU post i am starting to see your point about pedophiles….. sounds like the Aubbie was saying its ok for a pedophile to be a pedophile because they were abused as a child too

  166. 259
    28-27

    No there is a marked difference between something that is a felony crime and damaging to another individuals human rights and cheating at a game. Alabama cheated, but the University still stands, they are a strong institution and they generate revenue. Auburn University has cheat, still stands, and still generates revenue. I’d say both are pretty successful despite cheat at a game. You have to remember, football serves a larger purpose: To generate revenue and recognition for a University as a whole. What’s far more important is the sustained progress and improvement of the University as a whole.

  167. 261
    crimson hammah

    THAT AND THE TWISTED MIND IN DENIAL AND THE MICHAEL JACKSON DEFENSE – I HAVE NEVER HURT A CHILD WHICH IS HIM SAYING HIS PEDOPHILIA IS LOVING THE CHILD ….

    SAME WAY TOO MUCH MONEY MEANT – CAM HAD TO BACK OFF FROM MS BECAUSE THEY WERE OFFERING TOO MUCH MONEY AND WAS GETTING SLEAZY

    OR WHEN CAM SAID GOING TO AU WAS BUSINESS MEANT IT WAS GOOD BUSINESS TO GO TO A PROGRAM WITH A BETTER OLINE

    OR

  168. 262
    crimson hammah

    OJ IS INNOCENT THING IS A SELF WILLED IGNORANCE WAY OF SUPPORTING A MURDERER BECAUSE U WERE A FAN TO BEGIN WITH

  169. 263
    JASON4BAMA

    I posted earlier about brainwashing at the village….i am convinced of it now….not since bill clinton have i such “ends justify the means philosophy”….i guess we should apologize to all of politicians and business leaders in federal clink and let them out….surely langford took that money for some noble purpose

  170. 264
    crimson hammah

    BELIEVE ME IT IS A HEART ISSUE – GOOD PEOPLE WILL RENOUNCE EVIL AND TURN THEIR OWN CHILDREN FOR MURDER IF GUILTY BUT THEM SUPPORT THEM TO PLEAD GUILTY AND VISIT THEM AND ENCOURGAGE REPENTANCE…I UNDERSTAND BUT DO NOT CONDONE SCOTT PETERSON’S MOTHER IN KNOWING HER SON WAS GUILT TOLD HIM DENY DENY DENY

  171. 265
    28-27

    Hannah you completely misunderstand the situation. Granted a few Auburn folks are in denial but most are just reserving judgement till a decision is made. There is a difference. If Auburn is found guilty the university and it’s fans will move on and will concede that they were in the wrong and will comply with the NCAA ruling, but there’s no reason for Auburn fans to turn on the program yet. Nobody wants engage in premature self-flagullation. It serves no benefit.

  172. 266
    JASON4BAMA

    lately we have thrown a lot of politicians out of office or in prison in this state….i guess its only fitting to sweep the trash out at AU too….lol

  173. 267
    crimson hammah

    WHERE THERE IS SMOKE ALMOST ALWAYS FIRE – RIGHT WHEN I HEARD ABOUNT MEANS – I KNEW IT WAS TRUE …DITTO FOR MI JJ FISHING,,DAREUS,,,JERRELL HARRIS…REGGIE BUSH ,,,CAM NEWTON ,,,NC RING

  174. 269
    28-27

    And the biggest mistake you are making is assuming that morality has anything to do with college football. It’s a game, it’s not church. A booster can be in the wrong, but that does not mean by simply unknowingly supporting a TEAM that plays a GAME it is not a mark on anybody’s character. If people were showing up to Jordan-Hare every week to watch babies get murdered at the 50 yard line, then you’d have a legitimate beef, but all these people do is enjoy a game that in the grand scheme of things is pretty unimportant.

  175. 271
    crimson hammah

    LOL AND DUMAZZ AU FANS ARE NOW SAYING WE ARE BRINGING UP THE CAM CHARGES B/C WE LOST THE IB – LMAO WE HAD THESE CHARGES SINCE JULY AND EVERY BAMA FAN HAD THESE BEFORE LSU FAN WHEN IF WE WIN OUT WE WOULD JUMP BOISE AND TCU AND PLAY IN THE TITLE GAME…28 27 U NEED TO RENOUNCE AU AND GET ON THE BAMA TRAIN

  176. 272
    28-27

    Haha no I’m not talking about Lowder. Now you’re changing the subject. I agree with you on Lowder. The man is irresponsible and narcissistic. I wish he would go away. I was talking about the majority of Auburn fans who aren’t involved in the decision making

  177. 274
    28-27

    Haha I can’t do that hannah. I’ve grown up an Auburn man. I’m indebted to Auburn for providing me with a great education, a degree, and a livelihood.

  178. 275
    JASON4BAMA

    hammah i hate to cut out but i need to get some sleep and be rested for tomorrow…..got to go make some money and pay my taxes…..we all have to pay our part to prosecute all the AU crooks and house them in prison….yall have a good one tomorrow

  179. 276
    crimson hammah

    28 27 – I AGREE BUT A GOOD FANBASE WOULD RAISE HELL ON INTENTIONAL SKANK SCHEMING…AND NOT TURN A BLIND EYE WHICH I AM ACCUSING THE FAN BASE OF DOING BECAUSE U WANTED TO EMULATE A RIVAL…WHERE AS IF BAMA HAD A KNOWN LOGAN YOUNG TYPE I WOULD LEAD A CHARGE TO BREAK TIES BY A FAX CAMPAIGN OR BOYCOTT GAMES WHATEVER IT TOOK TO BREAK TIES WITH A STINKER

  180. 277
    crimson hammah

    AND I HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF WORKING FOR KNOWN SNAKES BUT I WAS GETTING RIPPED OFF A LITTLE BUT STAYED B/C THE MONEY WAS TOO MUCH BUT EVENTUALLY RIPPED OFF FOR BIG MONEY— NO MORE SNAKES

  181. 278
    28-27

    Yeah but a boycott does no good on either side. The fan bases for both Auburn and Alabama run so deep that if you gave up your tickets somebody else would just come in and take your spot and then you’d never be able to purchase tickets in the future since you gave up your season ticket position.

  182. 280
    crimson hammah

    I HAVE SAID MOST AU FANS IN REAL LIFE THAT I KNOW ARE HEART BROKEN AND KNOW 5 YR PROBATION IS INEVITABLE…. BUT MOST AU FANS ON CAPSTONE AND AL.COM BELIEVE THE CAM/DYE/LOWDER THING IS BS….THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I AM HAMMERING…THE WAIT AND SEE PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND CHECK OUT THIS AND THAT AND BELIEVE IT UNTIL REFUTED AND NO COMMENT DOES NOT REFUTE ANYTHING

    http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/123321-cam-and-auburn/

  183. 281
    crimson hammah

    GOOD DEAL – AND JA AND GLAD U SEEM TO COME AROUND ON THE HEART ISSUE OF BLIND IGNORANCE DENY DENY IS ALL WICKED AND ENABLES THE DYES LOWDER OF THE WORLD TO DO WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE AT HEART THEY JUST WANTED TO BEAT BAMA

  184. 282
    28-27

    Those are the people that have nothing going on in their lives other than Auburn football. All good football programs have those type of fans. They’re just the extremists and you can’t take them seriously. Deep down everybody is worried in the Auburn camp. Worried, but still optimistic.

  185. 283
    crimson hammah

    28 – I BELIEVE IF THE BAMA FAN RAISED ENOUGH HELL THE ADMIN WOULD YEILD AND DO THE RIGHT THING —- IF THEY DID NOT – I WOULD STOP BEING A BAMA FAN…

  186. 284
    crimson hammah

    I AM A SAINTS FAN — BUT NO WHERE NEAR THE PASSION AS A BAMA FAN ….BUT I HAD A HARD TIME BEING A HARDCORE SAINTS FAN LAST YR B/C THEY PLAYED POOR DEFENSE MINUS TURNOVERS – BEING A BAMA FAN I BEIEVE AND RESPECT TEAMS THAT PLAY DEFENSE…THIS YR SAINTS ARE PLAYING GOOD DEFENSE EVEN THOUGH LESS OF A RECORD I AM MORE OF A FAN….U HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDS

  187. 285
    crimson hammah

    MAYBE BUT THAT IS ALL U SEE ON CAPSTONE AND AL,COM SERIOUS FANS ON TIGER DROPPINGS SEC RANT MOST SAY WHAT U JUST SAID – AU FANS WHO DENY ARE BOOGS AND DESERVE THE BEATDOWN THEY ARE GETTING….

    OPTIMISTIC??? OPTIMISTIC A SLEAZY NCAA AND FBI COULD GET PAID OFF OR ORDERED TO BACK OFF BY ROBERT GIBBS????

  188. 286
    28-27

    Well my fandom to Auburn doesn’t change year to year. I’m a fan because of the great memories I had as a student at Auburn, the great opportunities Auburn has provided for me, and my family connection to Auburn. I was still an auburn fan back in 1998 and was at the Central Florida game cheering my heart out even though we almost lost to one of the worst teams in D-1 football at the time.

  189. 287
    crimson hammah

    YES BUT WHEN A PROGRAM U CARE ABOUT IS BLATANT SKANK WOULDN’T U WANT TO CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW U R LOOKING AT A 10 YR BASEMENT HOW FUN WOULD THAT BE…

  190. 288
    28-27

    It’s not fun, but my loyalties to Auburn run deeper than just a superficial attachment to a football team. My support of the football team is small part of my support of the university as a whole.

  191. 289
    crimson hammah

    I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF JOE BAMA FAN GOT MIKE DUBOSE CHOSEN AS HC EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT KNOW JACK ABOUT HIS PERSONAL LIFE – EVERYBODY AROUND MIKE DUBOSE BEFORE THE HC JOB COULD TELL U HE WAS A PERVERT AND A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN

  192. 290
    crimson hammah

    BUT U HAVE TO SEE THAT LOWDER RUNS THROUGH OUT THE WHOLE UNIVERSITY AND IN THIS CASE BY ALL REPORTS THE ATHLETIC DEPT IS OVER RULING THE ACADEMIC ADMMIN

  193. 291
    crimson hammah

    I HAVE FOLLOWED LSU ALL MY LIFE AND IN THE 80S LSU HAD A SLEAZEBAG AD NAMED BOB BRODHEAD BUT HAD A SOLID COACH NAMED BILL ARNSPARGER – BA LEFT BECAUSE HE COULD NO LONGER BE ASSOCIATED WITH SLEAZE…BUT HE GOT THEM BACK HE LEFT LSU TO BECOME FL ATHLETIC DIRECTOR A RIVAL THEY PLAY EVERY YR – HE RECOMMENDED MIKE ARCHER A DB COACH TO TAKE OVER – STUPID LSU LISTENED TO A FUTURE RIVAL AND HIRED HIM WHICH BEGAN A 12 YR DESCENT INTO CRAP…..

  194. 294
    almightytmc1

    Saban Sucks Says:
    November 27th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    There are fewer sources for the allegations against Cam than there are that Saban cheated with medical hardships.

    And the New York Times? Seriously. The sociology story that Bammers still love to tease us about turned out to be nothing and Thayer actually had to apologize for it.

    _________________________

    Better check again on that there buddy boy.
    Auburn got a year of acadmeic probation with the SACS.
    Luckily I think Auburn made it through.
    If they had botched it Auburn would have lost academic accrediation and would have probably had to close the school.
    Check your fact barnie boy.

  195. 295
    northernbamaoutpost

    Just to lighten this up a shade, after the game I went up to Birmingham and ended up in a comedy club around 11. A ventriloquist comes on stage with his wooden dummy and starts his routine, which opens with a series of Auburn/Cam jokes. After 3 or 4 of these, a guy in the audience stands up and in a very loud voice says…

    “I’ve had enough of this crap. It’s morons like you that are always gonna try and make decent guys like me feel inferior… by constantly bringing up references to “cow college” and tractors and the swine research center… as if the agrarian roots of my university are something to be ashamed off, or somehow minimize the countless contributions to science, business, technology and society made by Auburn graduates over the years. It’s superficial, baseless and I’m sick of it.”

    The ventriloquist was actually caught off guard, and he started to offer an apology, when the Auburn guy cut him off again and said….

    “You keep out of it mister. This is between me and that little prick on your knee.”

  196. 296
    BPI

    tmc. That academic accredidation thing had nothing to do with Chette, the professors, or any menbers of the Auburn football program. Chech YOUR facts.

  197. 297
    BamaBrando

    We all know Auburn is the bastion of integrity when it comes to football. Why would anyone think that Auburn would ever cheat?

  198. 300
    27-28

    You a**holes have done nothing but CONFIRM that there’s no $hit like the $hit that flows from the CRAPSTONE.
    Screw you haters…
    Suck on 28-27 for a year, why don’t you?
    Oh, that’s right, you can’t do a dam thing about that, can you?
    HA!
    Enjoying PROBATION?

  199. 301
    crimson hammah

    HE WAS DECLARED INELIGIBLE AND THEN REINSTATED FOR NOW AS THE INVESTIGATION CONTINUES,,,,,AND THE DAD DECLARED GUILTY AND AT THIS TIME CAM HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN TO KNOW ABOUT IT LMAO

    TOLD U SO SINCE JULY,.,.

    BAMA FANS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT VACATED WINS WHICH MEANS WE ASSUMED CAM WOULD PLAY

  200. 302
    BPI

    Hammah….Shut the hell up you moron….You’ve been spouting off all kinds of verbal diahreah since Julay…One of my faves was “ABARN WILL LOSE IRON BOWL 52-2 BOOK IT ” ….Remember that one you tard…

    Also using Vegas’ mighty 4 point spread as the bottom line to your victory.And when you got destroyed you say that your own players threw the game becasue all games are rigged……

    Spastic.

  201. 303
    almightytmc1

    So when did the NCAA clear Cam? There is a big difference between “Eligible to play” and “cleared”.

    Oh wait. I keep forgetting I am talking to a Kudzu U. Fan.

  202. 304
    crimson hammah

    AND I PREFACED THAT WITH THE MONEY WOULD BE ON THE MIGHTY #2 TIGERS.NOT SO MUCH.BUT THE GAME WAS ON IT’S WAY TO A 52 6 BLOW OUT WHEN THE WORD CAME IN THAT THE LATE MONEY WAS ON BAMA,,,,

    LAST WEEK I POSTED MOST OF MY PICKS AND NAILED 13/15 AT LEAST=LOOK IT UP

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