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		<title>By: Auburnisajoke formerly the fan known as Ballplay Indian.</title>
		<link>http://capstonereport.com/2009/04/03/massie-denies-rumor-about-saban/1991/comment-page-1/#comment-20326</link>
		<dc:creator>Auburnisajoke formerly the fan known as Ballplay Indian.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brando.....Way to play it cool. Your right, be happy with the #1 class. Kiids dont need to be drug through the mud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brando&#8230;..Way to play it cool. Your right, be happy with the #1 class. Kiids dont need to be drug through the mud.</p>
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		<title>By: BamaBrando</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamaBrando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Erik guy is some tool... he posts stuff to slam Bama over getting a recruit  that Bama was after. A Bama blog retaliates and calls him a liar...

Look Erik, most of us don&#039;t care what Massie said or didn&#039;t say. He didn&#039;t sign with Bama, but we are still very pleased with our recruiting class. I do believe it was a much better haul than Ole Miss had. I wouldn&#039;t want to trade. But if you guys are feeling really happy you snagged one away from ol&#039; Nick, then good for you. But putting these kids in the middle of your blog war is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Erik guy is some tool&#8230; he posts stuff to slam Bama over getting a recruit  that Bama was after. A Bama blog retaliates and calls him a liar&#8230;</p>
<p>Look Erik, most of us don&#8217;t care what Massie said or didn&#8217;t say. He didn&#8217;t sign with Bama, but we are still very pleased with our recruiting class. I do believe it was a much better haul than Ole Miss had. I wouldn&#8217;t want to trade. But if you guys are feeling really happy you snagged one away from ol&#8217; Nick, then good for you. But putting these kids in the middle of your blog war is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: OMNIPRESENT aka 36 - 0</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMNIPRESENT aka 36 - 0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea BB I think anyone other than Tracey Turner thats PRO AUburn... Well let me start over NEal was ANTI BAMA and Turner is JUST PRO AUburn(which is why he is successful  but back to the point ANTI BAMA in Mobile will get you fired from a Wal Mart Sir. I am from Mobile and kinda understand what your saying but
Seth Harp really FU$$$$ up WNSP and TOOOOMMMY PRAYTOR SUCKED TOO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea BB I think anyone other than Tracey Turner thats PRO AUburn&#8230; Well let me start over NEal was ANTI BAMA and Turner is JUST PRO AUburn(which is why he is successful  but back to the point ANTI BAMA in Mobile will get you fired from a Wal Mart Sir. I am from Mobile and kinda understand what your saying but<br />
Seth Harp really FU$$$$ up WNSP and TOOOOMMMY PRAYTOR SUCKED TOO!!</p>
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		<title>By: OMNIPRESENT aka 36 - 0</title>
		<link>http://capstonereport.com/2009/04/03/massie-denies-rumor-about-saban/1991/comment-page-1/#comment-20252</link>
		<dc:creator>OMNIPRESENT aka 36 - 0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW I missed a good discussion and a word for the day! BUt I hear ya CAP your a hard man to battle logistically Sir! KUDOS!!!! AND Erik way to hang in there Buddy,Sounds like MASSIE said what he said and had to back up and PUNT BAMA PUNT(had 2) whether it was a KID running his yap drunk or just being a BIG MAN IDIOT! I kinda beleive he said it, buuuuuttt I Dont beleive its true!












WAR POLYTECH BABY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW I missed a good discussion and a word for the day! BUt I hear ya CAP your a hard man to battle logistically Sir! KUDOS!!!! AND Erik way to hang in there Buddy,Sounds like MASSIE said what he said and had to back up and PUNT BAMA PUNT(had 2) whether it was a KID running his yap drunk or just being a BIG MAN IDIOT! I kinda beleive he said it, buuuuuttt I Dont beleive its true!</p>
<p>WAR POLYTECH BABY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: capstonereport</title>
		<link>http://capstonereport.com/2009/04/03/massie-denies-rumor-about-saban/1991/comment-page-1/#comment-20245</link>
		<dc:creator>capstonereport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I don&#039;t believe you made it up. 

The source of the information isn&#039;t very reliable. Why do I say that? It isn&#039;t a bylined story produced by a professional journalist on the Ole Miss site. It was said in what a chat or message board discussionâ€”the &quot;journalist&quot; didn&#039;t think enough of it to put his name on the story, so he took the cheap way out and spread it on the Internet. That is unethical. Just as unethical as spreading something a recruit might have told him because he doesn&#039;t know the difference between on and off the record. To be honest, I don&#039;t consider anyone a journalist that works on the fan sites at Rivals or Scoutâ€”they are psuedo-journalists that are little better than bloggers or talk radio hosts. 

I believe that you believe the source. I think your source is shakier than you think.  

The biggest question is whether the source embellished what Massie saidâ€”or if Massie ever said itâ€”or if your source&#039;s account is accurate. 

Do we believe a &quot;journalist&quot; that won&#039;t even put his name on the story? Do we believe a story quoting Massie produced by a professional journalist? 

Is that a hard choice to make? Honestly. Putting hyperbole aside for a moment. 

Isn&#039;t my position clear and reasonable? 

I&#039;m forced to say either Massie is a liar, in which case even if your source is true, we can&#039;t believe your story because Massie is a profligate liar. 

Or, we believe Massie is truthful and told the truth to Rapoport, in which case your source is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I don&#8217;t believe you made it up. </p>
<p>The source of the information isn&#8217;t very reliable. Why do I say that? It isn&#8217;t a bylined story produced by a professional journalist on the Ole Miss site. It was said in what a chat or message board discussionâ€”the &#8220;journalist&#8221; didn&#8217;t think enough of it to put his name on the story, so he took the cheap way out and spread it on the Internet. That is unethical. Just as unethical as spreading something a recruit might have told him because he doesn&#8217;t know the difference between on and off the record. To be honest, I don&#8217;t consider anyone a journalist that works on the fan sites at Rivals or Scoutâ€”they are psuedo-journalists that are little better than bloggers or talk radio hosts. </p>
<p>I believe that you believe the source. I think your source is shakier than you think.  </p>
<p>The biggest question is whether the source embellished what Massie saidâ€”or if Massie ever said itâ€”or if your source&#8217;s account is accurate. </p>
<p>Do we believe a &#8220;journalist&#8221; that won&#8217;t even put his name on the story? Do we believe a story quoting Massie produced by a professional journalist? </p>
<p>Is that a hard choice to make? Honestly. Putting hyperbole aside for a moment. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t my position clear and reasonable? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m forced to say either Massie is a liar, in which case even if your source is true, we can&#8217;t believe your story because Massie is a profligate liar. </p>
<p>Or, we believe Massie is truthful and told the truth to Rapoport, in which case your source is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right...I made it all up out of thin air.  April Fools. LOLz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right&#8230;I made it all up out of thin air.  April Fools. LOLz!</p>
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		<title>By: capstonereport</title>
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		<dc:creator>capstonereport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if Paul Finebaum said it!

Massie was quoted by a professional journalist as saying the blog was &quot;untrue.&quot;

Now, do I believe Massie or you?

Hmm, tough choice. I&#039;m going with Massie. 

The law of contradiction holds, Ian&#039;s quote where Massie says you are &quot;untrue&quot; stands in contrast to your report based on something someone unidentified told you happened. 

Yawns. The real world believes real sources, not Internet message board BS. Show me a bylined story quoting Massie saying what you assert, and I&#039;ll reconsider my analysis. Until then, you are just spewing hot air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Paul Finebaum said it!</p>
<p>Massie was quoted by a professional journalist as saying the blog was &#8220;untrue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, do I believe Massie or you?</p>
<p>Hmm, tough choice. I&#8217;m going with Massie. </p>
<p>The law of contradiction holds, Ian&#8217;s quote where Massie says you are &#8220;untrue&#8221; stands in contrast to your report based on something someone unidentified told you happened. </p>
<p>Yawns. The real world believes real sources, not Internet message board BS. Show me a bylined story quoting Massie saying what you assert, and I&#8217;ll reconsider my analysis. Until then, you are just spewing hot air.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Tider...Was &quot;sophistry&quot; the word of the day-of-the-day on your desk calendar?  You&#039;ve used it about 5 times now.  Good for you!!!

In other news...you&#039;re ignorant.  You hear what a Tider wants to hear.  You see only what you want to see.  It&#039;s a disease that has spread unchecked through the Alabama fanbase and it&#039;s damn pathetic.

I confirmed the first hand account of what Bobby Massie said with the source via email.  He claimed it is &quot;100% accurate.&quot;  That&#039;s good enough for me.

Like the almighty Paul Finebaum said, &quot;Nothing in Ian&#039;s blog proves anything to be false.&quot;

Just because Ian&#039;s report makes you feel warm and special in your pants doesn&#039;t make it gospel.

Holy shit you&#039;re dumb.  The fact that you can publish a website is damn amazing.

&quot;Massie called you a liar. Thatâ€™s good enough for me.&quot;

Did he call me a liar...Or maybe was it the person who wrote that blurb???

Get your shit together.

I bet you still think OJ was innocent too.  Congratulations on your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Tider&#8230;Was &#8220;sophistry&#8221; the word of the day-of-the-day on your desk calendar?  You&#8217;ve used it about 5 times now.  Good for you!!!</p>
<p>In other news&#8230;you&#8217;re ignorant.  You hear what a Tider wants to hear.  You see only what you want to see.  It&#8217;s a disease that has spread unchecked through the Alabama fanbase and it&#8217;s damn pathetic.</p>
<p>I confirmed the first hand account of what Bobby Massie said with the source via email.  He claimed it is &#8220;100% accurate.&#8221;  That&#8217;s good enough for me.</p>
<p>Like the almighty Paul Finebaum said, &#8220;Nothing in Ian&#8217;s blog proves anything to be false.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just because Ian&#8217;s report makes you feel warm and special in your pants doesn&#8217;t make it gospel.</p>
<p>Holy shit you&#8217;re dumb.  The fact that you can publish a website is damn amazing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Massie called you a liar. Thatâ€™s good enough for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did he call me a liar&#8230;Or maybe was it the person who wrote that blurb???</p>
<p>Get your shit together.</p>
<p>I bet you still think OJ was innocent too.  Congratulations on your life.</p>
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		<title>By: capstonereport</title>
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		<dc:creator>capstonereport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Ballplay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Ballplay.</p>
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		<title>By: capstonereport</title>
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		<dc:creator>capstonereport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing to consider.

You contend your story is correct. If your story is correct, Massie lied to Rapoport because both stories can&#039;t be true since Massie said your blog was &quot;untrue.&quot; We use the law of contradiction here since a thing can&#039;t be both true and untrue at the same time, when two exclusionary claims are made, then one must be false. 

Therefore, if Massie lied to Rapoport, your story is based on a liar. 

If Massie is a liar, how could we believe your report since it would be based on a tale told by a liar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing to consider.</p>
<p>You contend your story is correct. If your story is correct, Massie lied to Rapoport because both stories can&#8217;t be true since Massie said your blog was &#8220;untrue.&#8221; We use the law of contradiction here since a thing can&#8217;t be both true and untrue at the same time, when two exclusionary claims are made, then one must be false. </p>
<p>Therefore, if Massie lied to Rapoport, your story is based on a liar. </p>
<p>If Massie is a liar, how could we believe your report since it would be based on a tale told by a liar?</p>
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		<title>By: Auburnisajoke formerly the fan known as Ballplay Indian.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auburnisajoke formerly the fan known as Ballplay Indian.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned a new word today. &quot;Sophist&quot;.  Lets see if I can use it in a sentence. Bama fans are a bunch of sophists. Shane is a master sophist. Cap you were engaging in &quot;sophistry&quot; when you took Shanes side on that deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned a new word today. &#8220;Sophist&#8221;.  Lets see if I can use it in a sentence. Bama fans are a bunch of sophists. Shane is a master sophist. Cap you were engaging in &#8220;sophistry&#8221; when you took Shanes side on that deal.</p>
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		<title>By: capstonereport</title>
		<link>http://capstonereport.com/2009/04/03/massie-denies-rumor-about-saban/1991/comment-page-1/#comment-20235</link>
		<dc:creator>capstonereport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;Man... what you saw on that blog wasn&#039;t even true,&quot; Massie said. &lt;/b&gt;

Massie called you a liar. That&#039;s good enough for me. 

Your source is from a message board. LOL!

Ian&#039;s source is the horse&#039;s mouth. 

I&#039;ll put my trust in what is the truth, not some innuendo culled from message board BS. And if it isn&#039;t message board crap, where is the writer&#039;s story? If you can&#039;t present a story under the reporter&#039;s name then it is BS. 

Besides, your argument is that your &quot;source&quot; tricked a college kid. Do you think a recruit knows the difference between on and off-the-record? SO, at the minimum, your version of events leads us to the conclusion that your &quot;source&quot; was unethical in revealing what a kid thought was a private conversation. That doesn&#039;t instill confidenceâ€”it just shows what trash hang around your program in that they would exploit a kid like that. And that is IF we believe your version of events. 

As for slander? Where the hell did that come from? Published material is libel. Since I ran a newspaper and later a magazine (spent about a decade in publishing), I think I know how frivolous lawsuits like that can be. But, you are one of the reasons first amendment freedoms online are under assault. Next time you publish something, don&#039;t copy and paste crap off a message board and pass it off as fact. It makes all blogs look bad. 

However, your sophistry is clear. Everyone knows you are a liar as you continue to embrace a story that the alleged &quot;source&quot; denies. He called it &quot;untrue.&quot; 

Untrue is another way of calling it a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8220;Man&#8230; what you saw on that blog wasn&#8217;t even true,&#8221; Massie said. </b></p>
<p>Massie called you a liar. That&#8217;s good enough for me. </p>
<p>Your source is from a message board. LOL!</p>
<p>Ian&#8217;s source is the horse&#8217;s mouth. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put my trust in what is the truth, not some innuendo culled from message board BS. And if it isn&#8217;t message board crap, where is the writer&#8217;s story? If you can&#8217;t present a story under the reporter&#8217;s name then it is BS. </p>
<p>Besides, your argument is that your &#8220;source&#8221; tricked a college kid. Do you think a recruit knows the difference between on and off-the-record? SO, at the minimum, your version of events leads us to the conclusion that your &#8220;source&#8221; was unethical in revealing what a kid thought was a private conversation. That doesn&#8217;t instill confidenceâ€”it just shows what trash hang around your program in that they would exploit a kid like that. And that is IF we believe your version of events. </p>
<p>As for slander? Where the hell did that come from? Published material is libel. Since I ran a newspaper and later a magazine (spent about a decade in publishing), I think I know how frivolous lawsuits like that can be. But, you are one of the reasons first amendment freedoms online are under assault. Next time you publish something, don&#8217;t copy and paste crap off a message board and pass it off as fact. It makes all blogs look bad. </p>
<p>However, your sophistry is clear. Everyone knows you are a liar as you continue to embrace a story that the alleged &#8220;source&#8221; denies. He called it &#8220;untrue.&#8221; </p>
<p>Untrue is another way of calling it a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How dare you question anything Alabama, Erik!!!  Don&#039;t you know that anything Nick Saban says is the gospel to 70% of the people living in Alabama?  Surely you heard that the Alabama Board of Education is waiting to hear Saban&#039;s views on evolution so that they know what to teach in the schools.

You better hope Nicky doesn&#039;t say that you don&#039;t exist, or you&#039;ll disappear just like Marty McFly in Back to the Future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare you question anything Alabama, Erik!!!  Don&#8217;t you know that anything Nick Saban says is the gospel to 70% of the people living in Alabama?  Surely you heard that the Alabama Board of Education is waiting to hear Saban&#8217;s views on evolution so that they know what to teach in the schools.</p>
<p>You better hope Nicky doesn&#8217;t say that you don&#8217;t exist, or you&#8217;ll disappear just like Marty McFly in Back to the Future.</p>
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		<title>By: Seriously?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seriously?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s posts like this that make Alabama the laughing stock of the SEC.  Everybody hates y&#039;all.  You are bunch of whiny pathetic rednecks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s posts like this that make Alabama the laughing stock of the SEC.  Everybody hates y&#8217;all.  You are bunch of whiny pathetic rednecks.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my source...Ian has his. One Bobby was thought to be off-the-record (when it clearly was not), and one was known to be on the record. 

Which Bobby Massie is gonna tell the truth?  

Believe what you want to believe, Tider, but nothing said on this issue makes me a liar.

Talk about &quot;circular logic.&quot;

You gonna try and sue me for slander too! Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my source&#8230;Ian has his. One Bobby was thought to be off-the-record (when it clearly was not), and one was known to be on the record. </p>
<p>Which Bobby Massie is gonna tell the truth?  </p>
<p>Believe what you want to believe, Tider, but nothing said on this issue makes me a liar.</p>
<p>Talk about &#8220;circular logic.&#8221;</p>
<p>You gonna try and sue me for slander too! Genius.</p>
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