Can Auburn learn from Alabama?

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It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls.—Aristophanes, The Birds

What cannot be learned through discussion is usually learned through disaster.

Alabama 36 Auburn 0.

Iron Bowl decimation. Recruiting in disarray. Coaching chaos.

There were clues this disaster was nigh. However, most Auburn fans chose to ignore it. (Kind of like how many Alabama fans ignored the signs of disaster looming under Mike Shula.)

But 36-0 has a way of clearing the mind in a way only unmitigated disaster can.

In simple terms, Nick Saban has out-performed Tommy Tuberville on the field and off for the past two years. He’s done it on the recruiting trail, and with the coaches he’s hired and the money he’s generated for the university. It’s naïve for anyone to believe that Tuberville can wave a magic wand and reset the calendar to 2004 anytime soon.—TrackEmTigers

Some Auburn fans refuse to see the light. One demagogue attacked Alabama and Nick Saban.

But I would rather lose every game we played, then win a single game, let alone a championship, under that man.

Alabama fans, we loathe you. We hate the sin, and we hate the sinner.

And the reason we hate you, is because you see that shite, and you cheer.

You see that kind of icing, and you justify it. Smart coach, smart.

(One of you just found this blog by Googling ‘Nick Saban’s Secret of Success.’ Good Lord… )

You hear the sideline reporter tell of little Nicky begging his team to run up the score, not for the fun of it, not even for themselves, but because ‘don’t you know how much I f—–g hate these guys?’ … and you’re cool with it. —The War Eagle Reader

Predictable, but hardly helpful.

Worrying about someone running the score up on you is the sign you’ve lost all pride. Impuissance is about your team, not your opponent. It says more about Auburn than Alabama.

Instead of being angry with Nick Saban, you should learn from him. Like the poet said, wise men learn from their foes; cities didn’t learn to build walls from their friends, but from the cruel teachings of war.

Nick Saban’s secret of success is to work hard and hold people accountable.

Does that make him a bastard? Only in the mind of slackers who don’t want to work. You can pass all the Saban Rules you want, it won’t stop him from working harder than you. Why rant about that? Learn the lessons and use it for your edification.

Some fans have taken the traditional fan’s tack by demanding changes to the coaching staff.

As things stand today, Tuberville is most likely going to survive for another year. If he still wants to be around in 2010, when the buyout in that ill-advised “lifetime contract” will be a few million dollars lower, he’s going to have to make major changes, and that starts with the right hire at offensive coordinator. It’s also time to end any excuse-making out of Auburn. We heard a lot of opining this season about how Auburn couldn’t run a “spread” offense with players recruited for a West Coast set, but as Paul Johnson ably demonstrated this year at Georgia Tech, it’s entirely possible to be successful in a completely different offense if the right coaching is there.—From the Bleachers

Fixing Auburn isn’t about forcing staff changes on Tuberville. I’ve said it before, and will say it again, the question is not can you tolerate Tuberville with staff changes, but do you trust him to run the program? Auburn fans are now asking that very question.

This is not a one year job. This week’s discussion should not be about giving Tuberville another season, but rather do they have faith he can rebuild the program over the next couple of years. With the team in its current state, it’s hard to see things getting significantly better next season.—TrackEmTigers

If you trust Tuberville then let him worry about the staff. He has won big games in the SEC. He knows what to do. Or should.

If you don’t trust Tuberville then fire him now.

What you shouldn’t do is mimic Alabama fans handling of Mike Shula, which is the course JCCW advocates.

Yes, I still support Tubby’s return. But I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m past the point of genuinely expecting him to accomplish much with it. It’s more a matter of hope. And while hope is always, always a good thing and never, ever regretted, hope didn’t do a whole lot for us in 2008.—JCCW

If you don’t trust he can do the job, why retain him? Hope? Sound judgment, not hope should guide your decision. When Mike Shula was fired, a majority of Alabama fans were hoping he could do the job too. But even the most biased Auburn fan would have to admit that Alabama is better off today than it was under Shula.

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